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I recently purchased a home that has cat5 RJ45 ports in every room but I am having trouble connecting it all up. I have attached some photos of my structured wiring panel. It seems that they are connected through a telephone expansion but all the ports around the house are cat5 Ethernet size and not old school phone jack size. Also, in the structured wiring panel I found a cat5 cable (labeled game room) with a plug already attached so I connected it into my router (attached pic) then went and checked the game room cat5 port and I was getting internet from it! So then pulled the panel off the wall and checked the wiring (brown wall pic) then I went around to other rooms and pulled off some of the cat5 panels and they seem exactly like the one in the game room which makes me think they are all wired for internet but I don't understand how to connect my router up to that board so that the entire house is hard wired?. Any help is appreciated and please forgive me if this is confusing or a stupid question... I am new at this :)
 

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mabye that "telco" connection....

just make sure the pairs are connected properly on all those....

IMO I would get rid of that wonky setup (that's prolly gonna fall apart and get ickies on it) and redo the ends and go with switches and patch panels.. but that might be beyond your budget or whatever...
 
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Short answer - The wires in the walls are acceptable for Ethernet, but the wiring panel needs to be replaced.

Long answer - The panel you have is designed for phone lines and has all of the wires are connected in parallel. 10Mbps and slower Ethernet networks from the 1990s used to be designed this way, but modern ones require switches to achieve high speed connections. You need to rewire the cabinet to do this, but fortunately you do not need to replace the cables in the walls. The easiest way to do this is to locate the router in the wiring cabinet. You need to put an RJ45 end on each cable you want to use and connect it directly to the router (which has an integrated switch). Using a patch panel in the middle is a way to make things cleaner and easier to work with in the future, but it isn't absolutely necessary.
 
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Short answer - The wires in the walls are acceptable for Ethernet, but the wiring panel needs to be replaced.

Long answer - The panel you have is designed for phone lines and has all of the wires are connected in parallel. 10Mbps and slower Ethernet networks from the 1990s used to be designed this way, but modern ones require switches to achieve high speed connections. You need to rewire the cabinet to do this, but fortunately you do not need to replace the cables in the walls. The easiest way to do this is to locate the router in the wiring cabinet. You need to put an RJ45 end on each cable you want to use and connect it directly to the router (which has an integrated switch). Using a patch panel in the middle is a way to make things cleaner and easier to work with in the future, but it isn't absolutely necessary.

Okay so what you are saying is for me to decided which rooms that I want to be hard wired.. Then go pull those cables off the teleco connection panel, Put a plug cap on them and then plug those directly into my router (or add an Ethernet switch to my setup if I desire to have more than 4 rooms hard wired)?
 

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Okay so what you are saying is for me to decided which rooms that I want to be hard wired.. Then go pull those cables off the teleco connection panel, Put a plug cap on them and then plug those directly into my router (or add an Ethernet switch to my setup if I desire to have more than 4 rooms hard wired)?
pretty much that I would replace that panel with a switch and then have the modem in that closet
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122111

setup should be MODEM > Router > switch's > house
you need the router if you want DHCP I would recommend a modem/router combo such at this one
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0040IUI46/?tag=tec06d-20
1. install ends on all the wires
2. connect the modem to the WAN port of the router
3. connect the switch to port 1 on lanside of the router anyport will do
4. if you need to use more then one switch connect port 1 of the switch to one of the free lan ports on the router
5: you may need to direct connect the router and do the initial config before installing it into the network
you only need the router if your modem ins't capable of dhcp forwarding most cheap consumer ones aren't
of course if you don't need all the connections to be wired ( i counted 7 lines) you can of course just stick a wired router/modem in here and call it a day
 
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Not a modem + router combo those are a pain

Get separate ones..

Also get some poe injectors too.. Or a poe switch..
 

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Not a modem + router combo those are a pain

Get separate ones..

Also get some poe injectors too.. Or a poe switch..
the Surfboards are alright( for what they are)but Poe is stupid you lose gbe
 

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the Surfboards are alright( for what they are)but Poe is stupid you lose gbe

I'm pretty sure there's equipment for doing both PoE and gigabit. I have no idea about costs though.
 

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I'm pretty sure there's equipment for doing both PoE and gigabit. I have no idea about costs though.
there is he doesn't need POE nor ddwrt-support
 
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Okay so what you are saying is for me to decided which rooms that I want to be hard wired.. Then go pull those cables off the teleco connection panel, Put a plug cap on them and then plug those directly into my router (or add an Ethernet switch to my setup if I desire to have more than 4 rooms hard wired)?

This is exactly what you should do. I disagree with @OneMoar who suggests replacing your 4-port modem/router/switch combo with a separate modem, a separate router, and a switch. If it is working right now, I would do as you stated - keep it, and add a switch if you need more than 4 ports. I'm also assuming that the modem/router is provided by your ISP so you probably don't have much of a choice anyway.
 
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the Surfboards are alright( for what they are)but Poe is stupid you lose gbe

Uhh no you do not loose GbE... I got a d-link managed switch that's PoE and GbE.

You may loose it with SOME access points for 3x3 you'd only loose 3x3 on 2.4ghz and not 5 that require .at instead of .af but mine does .at poe so it can. It drives 3 APs right now and I get good speeds and it's full power.
 

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op doesn't need POE or 300.00 switches or even ddwrt support
 
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PoE switches would make the network config more flexible. :p more places you can stick access points so they don't have to be near an outlet. you can also hide em in the celing.
+ if you have guests over VLANs are a MUST. El cheapo routers that can't have ddwrt/openwrt/etc don't have vlans. my netgears don't have vlans but they do with alternate firmware.
 

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Great!! Thanks for the responses all! So I cut the cables that I wanted to use off the teleco board and put a cap on them and plugged them into my router and I still was not getting internet... So went back to the panels and noticed they are wired T568A and I wired the plugs as T568B :( so I went back and re capped them to T568A (yes I know that I should have just re wired the ports in the rooms to T568B. So my NEW question is.. Since my cat5 is wired T568A from the router to the wall panel does that mean I need to use a T568A wired ethernet cable from my wall panel to my desired device (in this case my xbox one)? from the wall panel to my xbox I am using a generic store bought Cat5e (which I assume is wired as T568B) I also assume this will cause a compatibility issue. Soooooo If anyone would like to shed some light on this issue for me it would be appreciated :)
 

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both ends need to be identical(T568B) unless you plan on using a cross over cable
you want a strait-though cable no wire swiping at either end
 
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Great!! Thanks for the responses all! So I cut the cables that I wanted to use off the teleco board and put a cap on them and plugged them into my router and I still was not getting internet... So went back to the panels and noticed they are wired T568A and I wired the plugs as T568B :( so I went back and re capped them to T568A (yes I know that I should have just re wired the ports in the rooms to T568B. So my NEW question is.. Since my cat5 is wired T568A from the router to the wall panel does that mean I need to use a T568A wired ethernet cable from my wall panel to my desired device (in this case my xbox one)? from the wall panel to my xbox I am using a generic store bought Cat5e (which I assume is wired as T568B) I also assume this will cause a compatibility issue. Soooooo If anyone would like to shed some light on this issue for me it would be appreciated :)

Both ends of the any cable need to be the same - either both A or both B. Both configurations work equally well; it's really just a matter of personal preference (I have yet to find any good technical explanation for using one over the other).

Also, you can mix and match A and B cables in your network so long as both ends of each individual cable are the same.
 

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Ok rj45 smart panels are just to distribute dialtone easily. You need a powered active switch to distribute ethernet from your modem properly. 1 ethernet line goes from modem to the panel. Place your switch in that panel, then plug in your line from modem to switch then plug in other lines you want hot for ethernet.

sometimes the wires terminating at the jacks are not properly seated or the jack modules are bad.

I recently purchased a home that has cat5 RJ45 ports in every room but I am having trouble connecting it all up. I have attached some photos of my structured wiring panel. It seems that they are connected through a telephone expansion but all the ports around the house are cat5 Ethernet size and not old school phone jack size. Also, in the structured wiring panel I found a cat5 cable (labeled game room) with a plug already attached so I connected it into my router (attached pic) then went and checked the game room cat5 port and I was getting internet from it! So then pulled the panel off the wall and checked the wiring (brown wall pic) then I went around to other rooms and pulled off some of the cat5 panels and they seem exactly like the one in the game room which makes me think they are all wired for internet but I don't understand how to connect my router up to that board so that the entire house is hard wired?. Any help is appreciated and please forgive me if this is confusing or a stupid question... I am new at this :)
 

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From what I read here (Unless I missed some parts), that patch panel is only for telephone but could be used for data if you have the square D hub. Honeslty I would order another patch panel like the one pictured below and pickup a unmanaged 24 port switch to be mounted in that closet were the wiring is terminated.

http://stevenengineering.com/tech_support/PDFs/45MULTILINK.pdf

 

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Yeah those patch panels help organize what rooms those ethernet jacks go to as long as they are labled in the room and at the patch panel. In order for internet to be distributed properly 1 line goes from the modem to the switch and then multiple lines go from the switch to the patch panel.

Dialtone is normally passed on the blue white pair and data is passed on the green and orange pairs. If you have gigabit devices all through the house and you want the full capability the modem and switch must support it-as gbe use all 4 pairs in ethernet
 

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I have to agree with Brandon on this one. I would install the CAT5s into a real RJ-45 networking patch panel. Either that or the wires need to be terminated but they can't go through the telco panel, but I would recommend the patch panel though.
 
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