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Need help. want to create bootable win7 64bit iso with usb-stick (using 32bit xp)

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  1. Velvet Wafer

    Velvet Wafer New Member

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    Like Title says, im fucked.

    i dont own a dvd drive anymore, and only got the win 7 ultimate 64bit iso... i use windows prof. 32bit and need to create a bootable usb-mp4 player. i read thru some guides online, but most are for vista, and the xp ones somehow dont work (at least the ones i found)

    so i need your help people! how am i going to get this to work?

    i have 2 additional gigs of ram on the way, and want to use my full 4 gigs^^+ newer direct X for gaming (on other harddisk, i want to keep xp 32bit for 4ghz+ overclocking on other disk).

    im thankful for every useful idea you people might bring up!:D
     
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    command for copying vista/7 DVD to flash drive

    type the following into a windows run prompt

    xcopy d:\*.* /s/e/f E:\


    d: being source (DVD / ISO image on Virtual drive)
    E: being destination drive (flash drive)

    wait for however long it takes to copy, done. make the other PC boot from USB and it works.

    P.S If your overclock isnt stable in an x64 OS, that means it never was stable. - an example being a car. just because it runs fine in 3rd gear without ever having a problem, doesnt mean its "fine" if it immediately stalls upon going into 4th gear. it means its broken, regardless of it working in other situations.
     
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    i read that this only functions in vista due to in xp the the ntldr beeing written in the mbr and not beeing found at startup ... you tried yourself?
     
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    no.

    The only reason it works in vista and up, is cause it reboots less. the drive letter for the USB drive would change between reboots, causing the OS install to fail - vista and 7 copy the data to the drive BEFORE rebooting, therefore it doesnt crap itself halfway and fail to install.


    Thats copy pasted from my notes, so yes - it works. i've used it many times.
     
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    i try it and report in a few minutes
     
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    /e is an invalid parameter

    what should i do now?

    i think my problem in command console is that i cant execute a 64bit bootsect on an 32bit os, so im not able to write the needed bootfiles... solutions? good methods for seppuku? im desperate^^
     
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    if youre going to keep winxp on ur other hard drive, just run the installer from xp, and do a clean install on the hard drive u wanna install to.
     
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    i click it, he asks me to boot with disk, like i would like to do^^

    is theire no way to go from 32 bit to 64 bit without dvd/cd?
     
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    What I did (which may involve searching for a trial version software):

    1. Format the USB drive with HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool (and make it bootable)
    2. Find a trial copy of ISO Buster and install in current PC.
    3. Open the Win7 ISO file with ISO Buster, copy and paste to the destination folder/drive.
    4. Make sure you copy and paste every file to include the boot image.
     
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    E is an invalid parameter, because most probably your flash drive uses anotehr drive letter. Replace E by said drive letter, and you should be good.
     
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    sure, but somehow i dont get how this should work... copy and paste was my first try, it isnt recognized.. missing ntldr

    xcopy d:\*.* /s/e/f H:\

    this was my command.. there was only one e

    there surely is no one that has a 32bit bootsect executable hacked to write 64bit bootfiles,am i right?
     
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    It may work without the /s /e /f commands to be honest, i'm not entirely sure what they do - i think they just make it automated so you dont get any prompts along the way.


    dont forget that this wont just magically boot, you need to make sure the PC is set to boot from USB, and make sure its recognises the USB device. might only work with FAT32, i havent tested what file systems work and what dont.
     
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    now thats fun, 4 files got copied... im trying to get it to work

    im supposed to copy the files from iso to stick now, am i right?
     
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    yeah thats what you're doing.

    The reason we use these commands, its that copying files through windows (copy-paste, etc) doesnt always work - hidden files and system files dont get copied, so it wont all be on the USB stick.
     
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    I might be COMPLETELY wrong, but uhm... does a 64 bit ISO really need any file from your current OS? All you need to do is copy the whole ISO to a bootable flash drive, that doesn't need any file from your current OS.

    Here, detailed how-to, I did it exactly like this with the exception of copying the files wia command promt
    http://kmwoley.com/blog/?p=345
     
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    after a short reboot i will try it. if i failure at it, you will see me back in a few min.;)

    thank you for help,i may need more:p

    P.S.
    mrcl, i still dont get it, its a vista guide....^^ im trapped with xp in this case
    also there some guides that use ntfs and some that use fat32... whts the right one?
     
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    Its a Vista Slash 7 how-to. Works for both OSes.
     
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    These instructions assume that you have a computer with Windows Vista installed on it.

    you see. my hands are bound
     
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    I suggest you use HP USB Disk Storage Format to make your usb stick bootable like Bogmali said, download here http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=197

    Then copy ALL files from the iso to the formatted usb pen, i suggest you open the .iso file with Winrar and extract all files to the usb pen.

    Like Mussels said your PC should be set to boot from usb:
    1.On startup press F8 or whatever is the corresponding key on your keyboard for the boot options, or
    2.Enter BIOS (hit Del or F2...), go to Boot Priority and set your usb pen as primary boot device.
    F10 (save and exit),restart, you're good to go.
     
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    this has happened hours ago, and is clearly not working. no ntldr to find. thanks for you suggestion, but it failed on me...

    used hptool 10 times or so today, switched between ntfs and fat32
     
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    i only get vista advises... i try that too in few min if mussels method fails... but i hope it doesnt, i know this wont work for me, its too easy... i never have it easy if things start to not work properly

    and i read of too much people claiming it doesnt work with xp

    edit:
    mrcl, i tried that prog a few hours ago, it simply crashes or the finished stick doesnt work

    in fact it should be half an hour of waiting, the mp4 bottlenecks a bit^^
     
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    The HP prog. has worked for me as well. Dunno why it doesnt in your case...

    If this doesn't solve i suggest you ask a friend for a DVD drive for the time needed to install the os.
    Is that so urgent that you want to install Win7 now?...i mean you do plan to buy another dvd drive right?..if i were in your place id go to a shop tomorrow and get a new drive, within an hour of time you have the os installed and a new dvd drive which costs, let me guess 20 bucks or sth like that!
    Cheerz
     

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