new build $1000 aud to spend

[Lionheart]

Here's what I recommend from www.pccasegear.com

I didn't bother putting in a CPU cooler because the Intel stock cooler does the an alright job & you save some dosh $$$, Just pick up a CoolerMaster Evo 212 down the line for $45

I hope this helps

Here are the links for more info...

Intel Xeon E3 Gaming Bundle - http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=31328

MSI Radeon R9 380 OC graphics card - http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=32312

HyperX FURY 120GB - http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=27943

WD Blue 1TB - http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21231

Corsair CX-600 V3 PSU - http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21713

NZXT S340 Mid Tower Case Black/Red - http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=30344

 

[JayCan73]

The 380 is a 7950(updated) with minimal dx12 support on a 256bit wide memory bus(384 on the 7950). I'm not familiar with aus prices but that seems pretty expensive for it's performance,(20%better than 7950 at best) what are prices can you get on a 280? That card is about equal to a gtx960, goes for about 240(cdn)new. What's the used market like in your area? I got a used 7950 for $100 and OC'c by 200mhz fine. Pays to shop around. 960 eats much less juice and could save you on the cost of a psu. (1ghz 7950, b85 mobo, stock 4670, plus ssd, hdd fans etc) could run easily on a 450w gold psu easy.

 

[JayCan73]

I can't see what's in that gaming bundle, but a 970 will absolutely spank a 380, probably beat the 390 in a lot of cases. Gimme a breakdown of the xeon bundle and I'll try to give you an idea of the performance it's capable of. What monitor resolution do you intend to play at?

 

[fletcher barker]

this is that i have come up with

Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor centre com 479
ASRock Fatal1ty B85 Killer Motherboard MBDASRB8501D cpl - 115
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 240-Pin (2X4G) 1600Mhz SDRAM DDR3 CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B cpl - 89
MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card centre com - 349
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive centre com - 69
OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive cpl - 77
Thermaltake SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply cpl - 85
Deepcool Black Tesseract BF USB 3.0 Mid Tower Case cpl - 45
Cooler Master Hyper 212X CPU Cooler RR-212X-20PM-R1 cpl - 55

i think should work have not checked is 550w is enough power or will fit in case. just want to thank everyone that has helped me, thanks heaps. learnt heaps. total cost is $1350 ish. funny how the budget started at $1000 and not long after jumped to $1350. lol

 

[rhino]

i think should work have not checked is 550w is enough power or will fit in case. just want to thank everyone that has helped me, thanks heaps. learnt heaps. total cost is $1350 ish. funny how the budget started at $1000 and not long after jumped to $1350. lol[/QUOTE]

This is what always happens when the Yanks pick up the trail. You end up with a nuclear power station and massively over budget when all you wanted was a rocket.

 

[fletcher barker]

lol so true.

 

[ne6togadno]

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/Y6qr8d

 

[BarbaricSoul]

this is that i have come up with

Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor centre com 479
ASRock Fatal1ty B85 Killer Motherboard MBDASRB8501D cpl - 115
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 240-Pin (2X4G) 1600Mhz SDRAM DDR3 CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B cpl - 89
MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card centre com - 349
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive centre com - 69
OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive cpl - 77
Thermaltake SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply cpl - 85
Deepcool Black Tesseract BF USB 3.0 Mid Tower Case cpl - 45
Cooler Master Hyper 212X CPU Cooler RR-212X-20PM-R1 cpl - 55

i think should work have not checked is 550w is enough power or will fit in case. just want to thank everyone that has helped me, thanks heaps. learnt heaps. total cost is $1350 ish. funny how the budget started at $1000 and not long after jumped to $1350. lol

if you are not going to OC (which the B85 motherboard does not support OC'ing), get the 4970 cpu instead of the 4970k CPU and save $50. Personally, for a non-OC'ing system, I'd go with a H97 chipset before B85. Newer chipset, no chance of compatibility issues with the haswell-refresh CPU and the haswell motherboard.


http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/xQBzrH

 

[ne6togadno]

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

wrong link

 

[BarbaricSoul]

wrong link

DOH, fixed

Games are not likely to require more than 4 threads any time soon, game makers don't want to limit their games to 10%(pulled that stat outa my ass) of pc users. A 3.7ghz I5 4590 sells for $240cdn as opposed to a $400 plus 4790k, pair that saving with what you'd save going b85 (my board cost me $60)+what you save from using stock cooling, that's like another $300 that could be spent on your gpu budget. Gaming will benefit much more from gpu horsepower than a few hundred ghz on your cpu, especially once you consider the premium on the board and cooling. There won't be any measurable difference between 1600 mem with good timings and 1866.

I wouldn't be so fast to say that. The XBone and PS4 both have 8 core CPUs.

 

[Caring1]

Stick to your original build, there are too many opinions showing bias, i'll add mine now.
Lose the Hyper cooler and keep the Noctua, keep the 8350 CPU, you can never have too much power, getting a smaller one will leave you with buyers regret.
Install a 256Gb SSD, that will be big enough for OS and games. Get the newer GPU, a 380 will do fine, 390 if you can afford it.

 

[Caring1]

I can't see what's in that gaming bundle, but a 970 will absolutely spank a 380, probably beat the 390 in a lot of cases. Gimme a breakdown of the xeon bundle and I'll try to give you an idea of the performance it's capable of. What monitor resolution do you intend to play at?

You're right, you don't have a clue as to Australian pricing.
A GTX 970 takes up nearly half of the original $1,000 budget

 

[rhino]

Stick to your original build, there are too many opinions showing bias, i'll add mine now.
Lose the Hyper cooler and keep the Noctua, keep the 8350 CPU, you can never have too much power, getting a smaller one will leave you with buyers regret.
Install a 256Gb SSD, that will be big enough for OS and games. Get the newer GPU, a 380 will do fine, 390 if you can afford it.

Yeah, they'll have you flying round in a dustbin as long as it's got an i7 in it.
The idea of having an ASRock mobo makes my hair stand on end.

 

[Caring1]

The idea of having an ASRock mobo makes my hair stand on end.

I just bought another one last week, that makes three the same now, all Z77

 

[BarbaricSoul]

The idea of having an ASRock mobo makes my hair stand on end.

why?

 

[rhino]

I just bought another one last week, that makes three the same now, all Z77

I don't doubt they do the job, matter of taste, I've always stuck with ASUS and haven't been disappointed.
My choice on a budget would be:
http://cplonline.com.au/asus-m5a97-evo-r2-0-am3-motherboard.html
I think even if I wasn't on a budget I'd buy AMD because, at the end of the day, they all do the same thing so what's the point?
I wouldn't turn my nose up at that Xeon+MSI bundle up top though.
Regarding CPU coolers, I had one of those Hyper 212 jobs and it did what it is supposed to do (once I put a second fan on it), which any similar cheaper cooler with 3-4 pipes will do.
However, this double jobby will perform better and you can have 3 fans on it if you wish:
http://cplonline.com.au/coolers/silverstone-heligon-he01-cpu-cooler.html

You listening Cobber?

 

[BarbaricSoul]

OP said they wouldn't be OC'ing (which is why my last suggestion has a non-K cpu and H97 motherboard in it) so a high-end cooler like the Noctua or that Silverstone is unneeded. The Hyper will do just fine on a non-K i7

 

[rhino]

OP said they wouldn't be OC'ing (which is why my last suggestion has a non-K cpu and H97 motherboard in it) so a high-end cooler like the Noctua or that Silverstone is unneeded. The Hyper will do just fine on a non-K i7

Yeah, he says that today.
Looking at the games due for release in the future (Doom 4 or even Dying Light albeit already out) the concept may appear more attractive.
The ASUS software bundle provides it at the push of a button. Simple as on/off.

 

[fletcher barker]

i think it got out of hand i want a pc that will last for a few years without having to touch it. having the option to play games but also to load app's quick. i think the amd 8350 will do the job. everything here costs more. i do like the i7 4790k cpu from the testing i have seen works great but costs heaps here. is there much difference between the 2gb and 4gb r9 380. difference is $70 dollars. i like the gtx 970 gpu but its $440 cheapest i have seen compared to the $250 for r9 380 2gb. i dont think i need to spend $1300+ on a pc i think $1100 is a better budget.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

i think it got out of hand i want a pc that will last for a few years without having to touch it. having the option to play games but also to load app's quick. i think the amd 8350 will do the job. everything here costs more. i do like the i7 4790k cpu from the testing i have seen works great but costs heaps here. is there much difference between the 2gb and 4gb r9 380. difference is $70 dollars. i like the gtx 970 gpu but its $440 cheapest i have seen compared to the $250 for r9 380 2gb. i dont think i need to spend $1300+ on a pc i think $1100 is a better budget.

Honestly, if I was in your position, I would still stay with an Intel CPU. You don't need a 8 core or 8 thread CPU from what you've said. The majority of programs an average user and occasional gamer runs are only going to use 2 to 4 threads/cores. I honestly think you would be good with an non-K i5 build.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/QsmRt6

And the i5 is only about $20 more expensive. Here's the same build, but with the i5 switched out to the least expensive AMD 8 core and least expensive motherboard with an adequate power-phase design to handle the electricity hungry 8 core.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/2jN9Hx

As for finding the parts at the prices we are, the link I post to my builds include links for ordering the parts at those prices. Those are Australian E-tail sites. They should deliver to any address in Australia.

 

[rhino]

Yeah, AMD at that level is for enthusiasts.
No point if your not prepared to use what it has to offer. Same goes for the "k" on the end of the Intel number.
The i5 solution will best suit your needs.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

if you think the 8 core is better than the i5, here is a comparison of AMD's top 8 core CPU against the i5 4590- http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1289?vs=1198

 

[fletcher barker]

ok i have settled for the i7 4790 and r9 380 4gb gpu. this is what i am going for:

$ 438.00 Intel Core i7-4790 3.5GHz Socket 1150 BX80646I74790
$ 145.00 ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0 AM3+ ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$ 65.00 GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory - $65 PLE
$ 319.00 PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card - 319 PLE
$ 69.00 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
$ 77.00 OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
$ 85.00 Thermaltake SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
$ 45.00 Deepcool Black Tesseract BF USB 3.0 Mid Tower Case
$ 55.00 Cooler Master Hyper 212X CPU Cooler RR-212X-20PM-R1
Total $1298

should 550W be enough and the cooler should do the job?? . cant find 212 evo so went with cheaper cooler master hyper. not overclocking so i dont think it would really matter.

JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THERE INPUT AND HELP.

i didnt really know anything, as 6 years since last build. I have learnt heaps. i am very happy i stumbled onto this website for help. I went with spending a little more as i dont normally have the money to spend on computers and i have it now so might as well spend a little more now so it will last longer.

Thanks again everyone

 

[m&m's]

ok i have settled for the i7 4790 and r9 380 4gb gpu. this is what i am going for:

$ 438.00 Intel Core i7-4790 3.5GHz Socket 1150 BX80646I74790
$ 145.00 ASUS M5A97 EVO R2.0 AM3+ ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$ 65.00 GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory - $65 PLE
$ 319.00 PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card - 319 PLE
$ 69.00 Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
$ 77.00 OCZ ARC 100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
$ 85.00 Thermaltake SMART 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
$ 45.00 Deepcool Black Tesseract BF USB 3.0 Mid Tower Case
$ 55.00 Cooler Master Hyper 212X CPU Cooler RR-212X-20PM-R1
Total $1298

should 550W be enough and the cooler should do the job?? . cant find 212 evo so went with cheaper cooler master hyper. not overclocking so i dont think it would really matter.

JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THERE INPUT AND HELP.

i didnt really know anything, as 6 years since last build. I have learnt heaps. i am very happy i stumbled onto this website for help. I went with spending a little more as i dont normally have the money to spend on computers and i have it now so might as well spend a little more now so it will last longer.

Thanks again everyone

The computer wont work since parts are incompatible, you can't use an Intel CPU (socket LGA1150) with an AMD motherboard (socket AM3+)!
You need a motherboard that has a LGA1150 socket.

 

[fletcher barker]

well i am glade you were around to spot that, thanks whats a good motherboard for $150 aud