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  1. JrRacinFan

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    If you don't OC, you may as well save your money and go with an AMD system. There stuff sometimes tends to be a little cheaper.
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    If your not planning on doing any oc, then go w/ the cheapest one thats stable and has the features you want. They differ in the amount of sata ports, rear ports, position of things on the board, memory standard, ect. If oc isn't a factor, those are the things to look at along w/ price. Its personal preference then.
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    my first build i was scared about all the bios crap, i picked up this P35-DS3L and its mint for a first time builder. real easy bios settings to fiddle around with and it oc's great. just another option for you.
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    none IMHO, all three companies make boards that are great for running stock settings. I would go with a DFI board myself, hanging out here, you know you'll want to start OC'ing eventually.
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    Are you going to dual boot XP/Vista etc? Gigabyte boards are not that good for dual booting. Don't know why but it just doesn't work for it. But if not then getting the DS3L is great for its price.
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    my old gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 never had a problem with dual booting(had it for set up for 5 months with a dual boot), neither did the p4 gigabyte board I had before the M57(don't remember what model that board was though)
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    Um I think I didn't explain it clearly sorry. I didn't talk about the gigabyte boards as a whole. I just meant the DS3L...... But if you haven't got a problem dual booting then lucky you.

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    well I haven't had a DS3L, so I can't speak for that series of boards, I can only speak for the 2 gigabyte boards I have had, and they worked great with a dual boot.
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    wow... thanx for all the help so is it that hard to oc cause i was thinking of getting intel and the dfi and then later learning to oc
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    It is not hard at all to overclock. If you still want to learn and it's in your future go ahead and get the DFI and an Intel chip. ;)
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    are there any downsides to oc'ing
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    Just potential shorter lifespans of your components. Components meaning processor, motherboard, and video card(If you OC it as well).
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    how much shorter a significant amount, and then what r the upsides
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    Not anything to notice, you will more than likely want to buy a new rig before that time ever comes.

    Upsides: your enjoyment from having a much faster rig!
    Downsides: watching your temps, but pretty much all the new stuff is sooo dang tolerant to temps its unreal. I mean for example, I have a Celeron D 347 chip in my second rig right now. At one time it was being used in what I currently have, with stock cooling that baby was idling at 58C and loading at 70C overclocked to 4.6Ghz.
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    k so u agree and think i should stick with dfi and intel e2200 and learn how to oc cause with two case fans and artic colling cpu fan i don't think temp is gonna be that high
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    for 8 bucks might as well u need it sometimes
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    yes, DFI boards are top notch products. If you can afford it, the e8400 is the way to go for a intel c2d cpu, if you can afford the $200 for the cpu. If not, I'm sure the 2200 would be good for learning and experimenting on.
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    what about e4600
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    buy an e7200, best bang for buck 45nm dual core around. the e7xxx is replacing e4xxx
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    I dunno choppy, having a higher multi sometimes has its upside.
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    45nm means a limits\ed oc because of the high FSB go for a e2x00 or e4x00 series chip you will get a higher oc unluckily you will need a few more volts to do it ;)

    also right now a good setup would be a 6400+/5000+ and that msi mobo you listed if you went the AMD route

    as for lifespan i pushed a 3000+ @ 2v+ (thats .5v over stock which is insane) and ran at that on stockcooling no issues ;)
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    you might be right cdawall, but persoanlly I have no problem with a OC limit of alittle over 4500mhz, which seems to be about the limit of the 8400
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    different price range ;) huge change off the e7200 to the e8400
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    Don't forget its also faster per clock than their 65nm brethren, with new instructions and the like. This makes up for the more limited oc imo.
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    whoa thats a lot so im confused i can't afford the e6750 or e8xxx but i can get e2200 and BE 5000+ and e4600 so which would be best for me msi and be 5000 or intel with dfi

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