New Crucial M500 seems slow

Altered · Feb 3, 2014

Maybe I was expecting too much. This is my first SSD and I know its faster than my old WD500 but for some reason it just doesn't seem to be as fast as I thought it would be.

Here are a couple of benches could someone who knows more about what they are looking at let me know if this is what is to be expected.
Thank you

This is the drive I bought at the egg
Crucial M500 240GB SATA 2.5" 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal Solid State Drive CT240M500SSD1

MxPhenom 216 · Feb 3, 2014

Altered said:
Maybe I was expecting too much. This is my first SSD and I know its faster than my old WD500 but for some reason it just doesn't seem to be as fast as I thought it would be.

Here are a couple of benches could someone who knows more about what they are looking at let me know if this is what is to be expected.
Thank you

This is the drive I bought at the egg
Crucial M500 240GB SATA 2.5" 7mm (with 9.5mm adapter) Internal Solid State Drive CT240M500SSD1
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New Windows install? AHCI enabled in BIOS for SATA mode? Update drive firmware?

Try running ATTO Disk Benchmark.

Altered · Feb 3, 2014

MxPhenom 216 said:
New Windows install? AHCI enabled in BIOS for SATA mode? Update drive firmware?

Try running ATTO Disk Benchmark.

No its a clone off of my other HDD

AHCI is enabled for SATA

No I havent updated firmware I have never done that to a hard drive. I have read it can be done on these drives but thought it should be close out of the box. Was this a bad assumption? :confused:

FX-GMC · Feb 3, 2014

Altered said:
No its a clone off of my other HDD
AHCI is enabled for SATA
No I havent updated firmware I have never done that to a hard drive. I have read it can be done on these drives but thought it should be close out of the box. Was this a bad assumption?
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Partition alignment issue?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1226963/how-to-properly-re-align-your-ssd-hdd-partitions

MxPhenom 216 · Feb 3, 2014

back up all the things you need and do a clean windows install, all new drivers, etc. if you connected the drive to a SATA 6gb/s port you should be getting around 500mb/s read speeds.

AsRock · Feb 3, 2014

MxPhenom 216 said:
back up all the things you need and do a clean windows install, all new drivers, etc. if you connected the drive to a SATA 6gb/s port you should be getting around 500mb/s read speeds.

Looks like it might be plugged in to a sata2 port.

I have used clones from HDD's without issue although that's always been on the intel chipset.

Jetster · Feb 3, 2014

AMD Boards have all SATA 6Gb/s ports. So maybe its a SATA driver problem. Get the latest AHCI drivers from Intel

And don't use HDTune on a SSD. It does unnecessary writes

Altered · Feb 3, 2014

FX-GMC said:
Partition alignment issue?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1226963/how-to-properly-re-align-your-ssd-hdd-partitions

I ran Mini Tool Partition Wizard alignment tool suggested on that page. Based on pciide in red followed by - BAD. After running it its the same.

I may have to do a fresh install but you would think there would be a way to repair this without doing a complete reinstall.

Altered · Feb 3, 2014

Jetster said:
AMD Boards have all SATA 6Gb/s ports. So maybe its a SATA driver problem. Get the latest AHCI drivers from Intel

And don't use HDTune on a SSD. It does unnecessary writes

Im not sure how to locate the AHCI drivers from Intel for my AMD? Will that even work?

Jetster · Feb 3, 2014

Altered said:
Im not sure how to locate the AHCI drivers from Intel for my AMD? Will that even work?

I was thinking they might as AHCI was designed by Intel. But maybe not. Im not really up on AMD chipsets. Just make sure you have the latest MS drivers. I reading that AMDs have issues. Which would be the ones that are on the disk that came with your board. Don't use them

Delete the drivers in the Hardware manager and rebooting. Windows will load the MS ones

Altered · Feb 3, 2014

Well so far all I can do is try a fresh format and see what Crucial says. Nothing is changing as far as I can see.

Thanks for the ideas though.

MxPhenom 216 · Feb 3, 2014

Clean install, all new drivers for your AMD board (Don't look for Intel stuff LOL). Should clear it up.

RCoon · Feb 3, 2014

AsRock said:
Looks like it might be plugged in to a sata2 port.

This looks to be the most prominent factor, this is exactly what an SSD looks like when plugged into a SATA 2 port. Has OP even checked to make sure the SSD is in a SATA3 6Gbps port?

MxPhenom 216 · Feb 3, 2014

RCoon said:
This looks to be the most prominent factor, this is exactly what an SSD looks like when plugged into a SATA 2 port. Has OP even checked to make sure the SSD is in a SATA3 6Gbps port?

His board only has SATA 6gb/s connections.

AsRock · Feb 3, 2014

Jetster said:
AMD Boards have all SATA 6Gb/s ports. So maybe its a SATA driver problem. Get the latest AHCI drivers from Intel

And don't use HDTune on a SSD. It does unnecessary writes

Well mine did not it had both, although i should checked what he had for a mobo...

Tried another port ?.

Altered · Feb 3, 2014

Fresh format results

kn00tcn · Feb 3, 2014

the hdtune speed test is a raw read operation, it doesnt matter what partitions exist, how many files there are, what file system it is, or if it's fragmented, so as expected the fresh format hasnt changed the result

but sequential speed isnt everything when we're talking SSDs, isnt your OS loading much faster? random access is the biggest speed killer of mechanical drives & an SSD blows them away even if the sequential speed is the same

speeds do look a little strange though.. as if the read speed is throttled

there are some interesting reviews on newegg if you arrange by lowest rated, AMD chipset person with freezes, thermal throttling that slows down the drive, someone's low life span calculation hmm... i was recommended an m500 so these reviews are surprising

rtwjunkie · Feb 3, 2014

Also, don't bother with firmware updates. I've got two M500's, and I've looked....they are so new there are no firmware updates yet. You should definately be getting faster speeds, although you are right, the hype around SSD's makes one believe they are like lightning, so the first time you buy one you get a little bit of a letdown, lol. But you'll see real world benefits, like quickly booting, and in opening browsers, or pdf readers, and see how quickly they respond.

FX-GMC · Feb 3, 2014

Altered said:
Fresh format results
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Maybe try reinstalling the chipset drivers for your motherboard.

http://66.226.78.21/downloadsite/dr...Win7-64_Win7_Vista64_Vista_XP64_XP(v12.3).zip
or the page i got the link from http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970 Extreme3/?cat=Download&os=Win764 (it's the AMD all in 1)

phanbuey · Feb 3, 2014

I read somewhere that the drives slow down if they overheat. I have the M500 and mine is really fast - much much faster than the WD500 black it replaced.

rtwjunkie · Feb 3, 2014

phanbuey said:
I read somewhere that the drives slow down if they overheat. I have the M500 and mine is really fast - much much faster than the WD500 black it replaced.

Crucial does aggressively throttle them if they overheat....but if you keep them in the same kind of airflow you'd keep HDD's in, you'll likely never see that throttling.

Tatty_Two · Feb 3, 2014

There is a firmware update (MU03 from September 2013) tha allows the user to control thermal throttling apparently, if this culd be the problem of course.

ruff0r · Feb 3, 2014

Altered said:
I ran Mini Tool Partition Wizard alignment tool suggested on that page. Based on pciide in red followed by - BAD. After running it its the same.
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I may have to do a fresh install but you would think there would be a way to repair this without doing a complete reinstall.

Your 4k-64Thrd performance is way off from the reviews i saw 320 Read and 218 Write. Your drive is under performing a lot.

rtwjunkie · Feb 3, 2014

Tatty_One said:
There is a firmware update (MU03 from September 2013) tha allows the user to control thermal throttling apparently, if this culd be the problem of course.

Thanks! I had looked a month a go and couldn't find evidence of a firmware update!

FX-GMC · Feb 3, 2014

Altered said:
I ran Mini Tool Partition Wizard alignment tool suggested on that page. Based on pciide in red followed by - BAD. After running it its the same.
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I may have to do a fresh install but you would think there would be a way to repair this without doing a complete reinstall.

Does it still say pciide - BAD on AS SSD?

If so, then AHCI isn't getting enabled for some reason.

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