New Gaming PC for xmas but note sure which route to take

TheMailMan78 · Dec 9, 2009

CHAOS_KILLA said:
2 HD4850's in crossfire beat a HD5850, thats hard 2 believe! I thought they were around the HD4890 performance.

Two 4850s will destroy a 4890 my friend.

Fishymachine · Dec 9, 2009

a 4890 should beat at be with 60% quicker a single 4850,and a 5850 has every single spec of the 5750, which beats the 4850,doubled so yes due to immature drivers 4850 cross might beat a 5850,but in this case ,tollickd's new build,it's the best option
-DirectX11
-Open Compute 5
-18W idle vs 60(2*4850)/120(2*4890)
-no crossfire issues
-150W load vs 220/380
-very good OC :1000 core @1.2v,950@ 1.15-1.18

MilkyWay · Dec 9, 2009

The 4890 is only slightly more powerful than a 4870 and i needs a ton of power to get there.

IF a 5870 can mouse a 4870x2 then i thought a 5850 would be better than a 4850x2 which i thought was the same as 2x for crossfire?

The 5770 is like in between a 4870 and 4890 if can clock it then it should reach 4890 or just below that.

ToTTenTranz · Dec 9, 2009

Hey, those graphics cards are so 6 months ago!

2* HD5770 or a single HD5850, with headroom for a second one when they get cheap.

Fishymachine · Dec 9, 2009

he can't afford a mobo with dual 16 lanes so the 5850 is the only way to go...or since he wanted to spend 400$ on dual 4890 he might afford a 5870 Vapor-X(reference isn't worth it since the premium is so small)

ToTTenTranz · Dec 9, 2009

TheMailMan78 said:
Two 4850s will destroy a 4890 my friend.

No, they won't. It's about the same performance.

And you should know this already:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1661023&postcount=44

MKmods · Dec 9, 2009

why are you still talking about 48XX anythings? I think its pretty obvious that the 57/58 series is the only way to go.
I run a pair of 5770s and love them but If you can find a 5850 like everyone else says get it.

crazyeyesreaper · Dec 9, 2009

dosent matter if his board is dual x16 lane or dual x8 5870 crossfire and below u wont notice any difference so 5750 5770 5850 and 5870 in crossfire will give equal performance on x8 x8 config the only card i see needing x16x16 is the 5970 in a quad gpu setup which the OP dosent need

grab a 5850 and be happy even if u have to wait a bit i still recommend the 5850 over anything else

TheMailMan78 · Dec 9, 2009

ToTTenTranz said:
No, they won't. It's about the same performance.

And you should know this already:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1661023&postcount=44

Yeah that bench you posted was for Crysis. Crysis has crap support for xfire rigs. The rest of the benches the 4850s in xfire beats the 4890.

Also I just got a 5850 yesterday and its about the same if not less than two 4850s. So your going to tell me a 4890 is the same as a 5850 too?

tollickd · Dec 9, 2009

Fishymachine said:
he can't afford a mobo with dual 16 lanes so the 5850 is the only way to go...or since he wanted to spend 400$ on dual 4890 he might afford a 5870 Vapor-X(reference isn't worth it since the premium is so small)

I am looking at a I7 920 Bulild with the ASROCK X58 EXTREME and it has dual 16 lanes

MilkyWay · Dec 9, 2009

5850 is probly just around 2x 4850's which for a single card thats nice MailMan is totally right there

a 4870 is not 4-2fps more than 2x 4850's that is a lie

its acting like a gtx 260 = a 4850 which it cant because a 4850 is marginally better than a 8800gt

Fishymachine · Dec 9, 2009

Than a 5770 now (try a Vapor-X,or PCS or Formula or some cheap non-reference)a another when they get cheaper.

I tried not be off-topic,but marginally better...so a GTS250 is also marginally better than the 8800/9800GT

ToTTenTranz · Dec 9, 2009

TheMailMan78 said:
Yeah that bench you posted was for Crysis. Crysis has crap support for xfire rigs. The rest of the benches the 4850s in xfire beats the 4890.

Also I just got a 5850 yesterday and its about the same if not less than two 4850s. So your going to tell me a 4890 is the same as a 5850 too?

LOL the review I posted from Xbit Labs has 15 games, 13 of which show better or similar results with an overclocked HD4890 than a HD4850X2.

If your HD5850 has the same performance as a HD4850X2 then there's definitely something very wrong with your HD5850.

Stryder75 · Dec 9, 2009

MKmods said:
why are you still talking about 48XX anythings? I think its pretty obvious that the 57/58 series is the only way to go.
I run a pair of 5770s and love them but If you can find a 5850 like everyone else says get it.

I second this statement. Go for the 5850 if you can find it. If not, a pair of 5770s will do you good.

tollickd · Dec 9, 2009

Stryder75 said:
I second this statement. Go for the 5850 if you can find it. If not, a pair of 5770s will do you good.

Well I will ask in the shop and if they have one I will get it other wise i will get 2 5770 until I can get a 5970

MKmods · Dec 9, 2009

LOL, a pair of 5770s is pretty nice..The way you put it its like they are better than nothing :laugh:

Im sure till you get a bigger LCD they will be fine.

Its funny how the prices of the 57/58 series cards are so crazy now. When the 5770s first came out they were $159, than they dropped to $139 so I got my 2, Now they are $179
(its a bit too much IMO)
The 5850s were supposed to be $279 than they went to 309 than 339 and who knows now..

I had a pair of the 4870s and really didnt like them, they were power hogs and made a TON of heat in my case. The 57/58 series is much improved.

Exeodus · Dec 9, 2009

I have had two 4850's in crossfire, 4870 512MB, 4890, and a 4870x2.

All were used with quad core setups, and it worked out like this.

two 4850 > 4870 512MB
4890 > two 4850
4870x2 > 4890

A 4890 is only a bit faster than a 4870 1GB, but it thrashes a 4870 512MB

TheMailMan78 · Dec 9, 2009

4850x2 = 315 to 155 fps.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_4850_X2/13.html

4890 = 286 to 133 fps.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_4890/15.html

I can do other games but Prey or anything with the tech 4 engine tends to love ATI cards.

Oh and FYI there is nothing wrong with my 5850.

tollickd · Dec 10, 2009

http://techgage.com/article/ati_radeon_hd_5770_crossfirex_performance/1

Now I know what to get for xmas

Stryder75 · Dec 10, 2009

Go for them. I would suggest seeing if you can find the sapphire Vapor-x model or at least a non-reference cooler 5770. Better temps and it won't sound like a leaf blower.

Fishymachine · Dec 10, 2009

and with memory OC of 1400+ only drivers might stop you from having 4980x2 performance for 300$

Lionheart · Dec 10, 2009

2 HD5770's in Xfire or an HD5850, if you can get em!

Wile E · Dec 11, 2009

ToTTenTranz said:
No, they won't. It's about the same performance.

And you should know this already:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1661023&postcount=44

They didn't OC the 4850's either. A pair of OCed 4850 will beat a 1GHz OCed 4890.

At any rate, it doesn't matter, he shouldn't be looking at HD4000 series cards at this point in the game.

tollickd · Dec 11, 2009

The shop just got XFX RADEON HD5850 1GB HD-585A-ZNB PCI-E RETAIL in for less than the two 5770's

MKmods · Dec 11, 2009

sounds like a plan hurry before its gone...

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