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New monitor 1440p vs 120hz vs extended gamut

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  1. droopyRO

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    Yes this is another help me choose a monitor thread :)
    I dont look to a specific model but i would like to ask you to please clarify this issue i have:
    - 120Hz i havent played games on more than 75/60hz is the difference worth it ?
    - 1440p i used the display scaling option in nVidia control panel to see if i get more information on screen and in some games i dont(like ArmA3 or Mass Effect 3) and in others i do, i have a 1440p display at work but i cant install anything so i cant test it in games.
    - extended gamut, would i notice above sRGB color reproduction it in games or is it strictly a 2D/3D graphics thing ?

    I have a U2412M right now and i tried a BenQ Gw2750HM(VA panel) hooked up to a GTX 660 i dont know witch direction to choose, space (1440p), speed(120hz) or colors(Dell U2413)
    I dont play a specific type of games, in the last months i played BF3, MOHW, Company of Heroes, Supreme Commmander 2, Far Cry 3, the Witcher 1 and 2 and a little Project CARS.
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    I recently bought a calibrated LG IPS and its astonishing how much better the color is than on old acer LCD
     
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    well 120hz is really more for 3d. as in nvidia 3d vision or similar. If you are not going to use 3d you can cross that off right now. unless you are a videophile, in which case you wouldn't be asking us this question.

    if the choice is then size vs color, simple question: how much real work do you do on the machine? if it's just browsing and gaming, go for colors. if it's work with a lot of text and you end up scrolling alot, go for size to be more efficient. that's how i see it at least.

    do note that 2560x1440 is 16:9, and for most games downscaling works great (from experience) there are a few where it's bothersome but they seem to be the poorer quality games imo.
     
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    120hz is not just for 3D, it's also for wanting good framerate in games...
    Good luck getting 120+ frames on a 660 with all your favourite eye candy. There are a select few games i can ge to hit 120+ frames on my xfire setup and 144hz monitor, but it looks pretty nice, and turns you into a person that gets irritated with lower framerates.
    I'd rather have resolution over framerate in hindsight, as i can max everything at way over 60 frames on standard res.
     
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    From my experience, 120Hz is definitely worth it.
    Working on the desktop is just much smoother, everytime I'm behind a 60Hz monitor these days I tend to get annoyed by the choppyness of the mouse movement.

    In gaming it is also great; íf you can get 120FPS. For me that means that not nearly everything benefits from my monitor, but in shooters like CoD its really nice.

    Being able to play stuff in 3D is ofc also a nice bonus when you've got a 120Hz screen:)
     
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    did someone say that it was? what'd I miss?

    I stand by my statement. very few people would buy a 120hz screen nowadays without 3d being a deciding factor. only videophiles notice or care about the difference between 60hz and 120hz, and they are in the minority. I felt it safe to assume in this instance that the OP was not in fact a videophile, and so my answer reflected that,

    i'm not saying you're wrong, at all - I'm just saying I was answering from a different POV than you.
     
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    I'm glad I'm not the only one who has all of a sudden become infuriated by comparatively low fps :D
     
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    not to hijack this thread, but a quick question: i should be able to notice this difference on my 120hz lcd tv (gift I didn't buy it lol) vs my 60hz lcd monitor correct? it says it's operating at 120 hz but I see NO difference on the desktop, though I do with games.

    is it just the mouse jumping or what should I be looking out for?
     
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    I know, but i will be replaying older games like Bioshock and when playing BF3 i dont mind running it on medium to get higher frame rates in multiplayer.
    About 25% is browsing, 25% watching movies and the rest gaming.
    I have been using an application called QuickGamma to calibrate my displays as i dont have acces to a SpyderPro, Xrite or ColorMunki hardware calibration devices.
    I wear glasses so i wont be using 3D any time soon. 10q
     
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    IPS gives amazing colour
    120hz gives phenominal fluidity in games that can achieve it
    1440p is extremely crisp, but only recommend it when you're running super high res texture games, older games will still look just as old on that res.


    Never noticed a difference on my desktop at 144hz personally, only noticable in games.
     
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    I was thinking about the U2410 or U2413 displays, my U2412 is standard gamut. They all have 1200p resolution about the same ghosting level and input lag so it would not be a real upgrade except the colors.
    But that is my question would you notice the difference in games or just in 2D ? 10x
     
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    You mentioned Starcraft II, in which case i would ignore everything except 120hz, because most people i play with, and i know a lot of the pros lower down game settings for higher framerates, as framerates are KING for SCII

    On a side note, i bet you hear "nem ertem romanu" a lot round there right? unless there arent many gypsies around your area. :D
     
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    120hz for gaming are amazing. :cool:

    Off course you notice everybody with two working eyes can notice the difference and from what i heard is phenomenal and is love at first sight...

    You will never want to get back to 60 hz.
     
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    I also wear glasses most of the time, the 3d goggles are made with this in mind:) they fit right over my own glasses and I dont have small ones by any means^^
     
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    I just recently upgraded from a 1920*1200 24" to a 2560*1600 30". For me there is no going back, even for 120hz. I use my computer for gaming, college work, and videos. For gaming, the increased detail and screen size is great, especailly when sniping in 1st person shooters. For college work, the ability to basically have 4 screens equal to my laptops 15"screen is simply awesome. One section for my assignment details, one section for live chat sessions, one or two sections for research pages(depending on if I'm watching a live chat session), and one section for working on the assignment it's self. Watching videos, the high resolution doesn't help any, the videos are whatever resolution they are recorded at, but the 30"size makes the videos easier to watch.

    My vote is for the high res 1440p screen.
     
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    120 vs 1440p? Not even a contest. Sharpness on the typical size of a 1080p monitor is a joke. Good way to strain your eyes.
     
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    Have no ideea what that means :)
    Didnt knew that.
    30" is over my budget but a second hand 1440p or a Korean one is what im pondering.
    Thank u all.
     
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    For a self given christmas present I bit the bullet and went all out on a Asus PB278Q (1440p, PLS Panel) Monitor and for the games I play it is extremely amazing! Colours are great and the picture clarity is awesome and I would recommend it to anyone! (except for people who are hardcore FPS fanatics).

    I also have a friend who owns a 120Hz Gaming monitor, and uses it for NON 3D application, purely for the 120Hz refresh rate and whilst it looks smooth you really do comprimise on all kinds of colour quality and pixel density, but if you love to play FPS games and want your split second responses to be on the dot then definitely consider a 120Hz monitor.

    Extended Gamut isn't really a problem if you go with a IPS/PLS panel as the colour reproduction on the high end panels (even the lower end ones if you can properly calibrate them) are great to begin with.

    I honestly think it comes down to one thing, the games/application you play/use. If your a twitch gamer (FPS pro or something) consider the 120Hz monitors, but if you a gamer like myself that plays alot of everything, MMO's to FPS to MoBA and Strategy then I personally believe the 1440p IPS/PLS panels are the better option!
     
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    I went with a Yamakasi off ebay, 27" 1440p. had it about 6-7 months now no issues, loving it.

    Actually I use my monitor most of the time, I only use the 120hz tv when I'm playing a competitive shooter, which is hardly ever.

    it's really just not a big enough deal to me.
     
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    Guess there arent many around your parts. Though i remember seeing a drain cover being stolen in broad daylight on a road so they could melt it down and sell, last time i was down there (near the red river if that's what its called)

    I dont think a 24" or 27" at 1080p will strain your eyes very much :D bigger monitors suffer a lot more at 1080p though, which is where issues arise, but you're not heading down the large monitor route.
     
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    You realize that 120HZ LCD tvs are nowhere near comparable to 120hz monitors. 120hz TVs use a different process to generate the extra frames and I dont think your TV even runs at 120hz when its hooked up to the computer. This is probably why you don't notice a difference and dont think 120hz is all its cracked up to be.
     
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    The layman's explanation is that 120hz PC monitors are capable of accepting and displaying a true 120hz input signal, while the 120/240hz TVs accept a maximum of only 60hz input signal, and use interpolation to insert additional, faked-out frames. This interpolation processing natively adds input lag, highly undesirable for gaming and general PC use.

    ie, playing FPS on that TV really is not helping.
     
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    I have a 120hz tv and Im pretty sure the interpolation is disabled when hooked up to a computer. So it doesnt hurt it but it damn sure isnt true 120hz.
     
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    I am agreeing with you
     
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    Yea i know sorry about that haha. I just wanted to clarify that the interpolation is disabled when hooked up to the computer.
     

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