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  1. cowmix

    cowmix New Member

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    I just want to first start out by saying how great these forums look. People seem really nice and helpful. So i quess I want to first start out by saying im brand new to computer building. I have always been addictied to gaming on the computer. Over the last few years I have become and more competitive gaming wise. I've always just used my father's computer to game, but since i recently fried the whole thing I decided I would go and try and build a gaming computer for my gaming needs. I have no knowledge of building a computer what so ever. If u were to put a great mother board and a crappy one in front of me I would have no idea witch one is better. So asically what i am asking for is help on building a computer. My max price is probly a little higher than $2,500. I would like it to have a green color scheme, but what ever color is really fine. So it would be greatly aprreciated if anyone had an suggestions on what to buy for a gamin computer.

    ~Cheers :toast:
     
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    How intensely do you game? Is looks THAT important to you? I HATEEEEEEE wasting money, and that is why I ask you these question...

    go in my sig (that link just under my post) and that system would fit you well I believe (maybe a better GPU and a water cooling system instead though)...

    What games do you play?

    seriously, with a 1500$ budget, you can get a pretty top of the line PC
     
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    HOw Hard

    I normal game about 30 hours a week. I have and still am playing Guild Wars competitively, always have and playing call of duty's, diablo's, star craft, and counter strike. Cant wait for Starcraft2 and Diablo 3!
     
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    Hey if that's what he wants than that's cool. The top of the line system would be an i7 with a gtx295 or a 4870x2watercooling 6gigs of triple channel ram vista 64 bit etc now comes the tricky part of figuring out which products to choose, as for motherboards Asus makes a board called the rampage extreame with an x58 chipset, foxconn makes the bloodrage which I own and DFI x58 boards are good as well these 3 are the top
    Of the line boards for the i7.
     
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    Sure, but IMO, a gtx 295 is useless if you don't play at over 1920x1200 etc... WHAT games do you play? I will try to make a system list for you by tomorrow if I understand completely what you want/need... Hopefully don't care to much about e-peen length :p
     
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    Agree with XRevengEx, with that budget you should be looking at:

    Intel i7 920
    X58 Mobo
    NVIDIA GTX 295

    For starters. And @ n-ster, a WC setup is definetly not a good idea for a first build. Even I dont have the guts to try one yet!

    But ofc, it depends what your actually going to use it for and the monitor you have, or whether this budget needs to include a complete package.
     
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    hi buddy, here you go, saving you a bit of money going AMD. Got you a monster 4870x2, dvd drive, case, everything. As if you were building from the ground up.

    Of course, re using your hard drive, case, drives, and maybe the PSU you hvae will save you a lot of money. You can also go with a single 4870 and that will also save you some money.

    Here is my list, things can be changed around to save lots of money. But if you had a $1500 budget, I used it to the full, well there is still room for a bit more.

    [​IMG]

    If you want PM me your email adress and I can email you this cart. Then you can click each item and view them in detail :toast:
     
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    @ cowmix, does the budget of $2,500 need to include:

    Monitor
    Keyboard
    Mouse
    Speakers
    PC
    etc.

    or just the PC?
     
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    I'm sure he is going to want to game at high res, you have to running a sytem with that much power that would be like me running mine on a 17in monitor LOL. I say go with a 4870x2 if you wan to save alittle cash if not which it looks like cash is not a worry get a 295.
     
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    Fine no WC then :p CP can you check the link in my sig out please? Cow, I don't think we can ever give you the perfect system until we understand your needs ;) so what games do you play? what else can you tell us?

    @ revenge I don't think he wants to buy a 1000$+ monitor to be able to play at a higher Res
     
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    My monitor was $400.00 1920x1200 2ms 50:000 to 1 C:R not really that high but that's what they claim. You can get an extreamly nice monitor for $400-500 some are even cheaper I don't know where you came up with $1000.00+
     
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    Just want to first start off by saying thanks, allready have all these post with helpfull information. The $2,500 budget does not inclued the monitor and keyboard ect. I already have a 21 inch lcd samsung that im using now. What im looking for in this computer is to be able to have more than 2 games on the computer and be able to play them at high res compared to what i have now. My computer that I recently fried was only able to play 2 games at mid res max. If i went any higher the lag would be unbearible and i wouldn't be able to play my games competitively.

    List of Games
    1. Call of Duty 4 and 5
    2. Guild Wars
    3. Command and Conquer
    4. Diablo
    5. Star Craft

    Would have to switch games in and out every so oftern cause i could only have 2 at a time.

    ~Thanks for the help
     
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    what's the res on your monitor?
     
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    Res

    As of right now it is 1280 by 720.
     
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    Yeah you need a new monitor. I recommend a 24 inch for gaming at 1920x1200 with the setup you are wanting it's a must. Look into viewsonics, the acer g24 (what I own) and asus makes some nice ones as well also hannsG/Spree, also look for 2ms response time with a nice C:R
     
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    thats a damn good build. I gave him something that he can save a lot on and go i7 if he wants. Its just one of the many many many builds he can do
     
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    gtx 295 IS A WASTE at anything 1920x1200 and less... therefore meaning that any monitor to take benefit of it is a 2560x1600 monitor etc... (30" screen) which IS 1000$...

    The VH226H ASUS should do a perfect job for him (2ms, known for it's bright etc, and 1920x1080... 21.5") for 190$ tax and shipping included.. also looks nice to me

    To cow... I would call you an extreme gamer AT ALL... a 500$ system can get you max settings a awesome FPS for ALL those games... are you sure you want to do this investment?
     
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    I had some free time so here is my list. I wish I was you. :toast: $2500 in one shot. :rockout:

    All I think you need would be kb/mouse, speakers, and cables.

    LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA $25.99
    Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $179.99
    Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $119.99
    ASUS MK241H Black 24" 2ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor with 1.3MP Webcam - $279.99
    EVGA 017-P3-1293-AR GeForce GTX 295 1792MB 896 (448 x 2) - $574.99
    HT OMEGA STRIKER 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - $89.99
    SILVERSTONE ST85F 850W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V SLI Ready - $189.99
    (2)Kingston HyperX 3GB (3 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1800 (PC3 14400) - $269.98
    ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - $398.99
    Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor $288.99
    XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - $39.99

    TOTAL: $2,458.88 before shipping

    I think this is what would be in my cart if I had the $2500 and was not going to WC. (maybe cut back else where for a Raptor HDD)

    Post pics of your build. Best of luck!! :toast:
     
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    It's not a waste at 1920x1200 what are you taking about? 1920x1200 is a high res that's what the 4870x2/gtx295s are made for, if 1920x1200 is a waste why do they test most cards on that res? Because it's one of the highest res. As for that 30inch that's crazy you don't need something like that that's not a normal gaming monitor..normal is in the $300-500 range.If you think the 4870x2/295s were made for only 1000.00 monitors you're incorrect also if you think that running either of those cards at 1920x1200 will be a waste that's false as well. Why do you think they test alot of games at 1920x1200? But anywise back on topic let me ask you cow do you want a top of the line pc? Because that's what I'm thinking you want.
     
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    Man JAT.... that's way overpriced IMO... not bad, but for bang/buck (which I'm crazy about) it's not exactly the best :p

    Revenge... gtx 295 is for bigger e-peen, folding?, and 2560x1600 res... ESPECIALLY for those games xD

    Anyone agree with me?
     
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    No really it's not look at it this way how may people do you think game at 1920x1200 vs that res..in some tests the performance goes down at that res depending on the system specs. Let's just agree to disagree :)
     
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    Am i willing

    As to answer n-sters question the answer is yes. Yes i am willing to make this envestment. I am fortunately blessed with a semi photographic memory. So since school is kinda breeze for me; I have alot of free time so i work alot. College isn't really an issue for me money wize becuase im probly going to get a full ride. So i kinda have alot of extra money to spend. So making this envestment isnt really an issue for me and if it were to become one i could just down grade the computer (Hope it doesnt happen).
     
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    Core i7,foxconn bloodrage/asus rampage, 6gigs of ddr3 triple channel,gtx-295/4870x2,vista 64bit,logitech g15 keyboard, razor deathadder mouse,full tower, aftermarket CPU cooler,24inch 1920x1200 gaming monitor, 2x 300g raptors in raid, 1000w psu (future upgrades) cd/DVD drive/bluray drive. Sorry can't make an actual list off newegg Im at work.
     
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    My bad. I wasn't going for bang/buck. I was going for Balls Out, Best Quality, Easy Setup for noob. :D Also, that setup should overclock like a beast when he is ready.

    A GTX295 might be overkill, and the 1800mhz DDR3 is too, but who ever said overkill was a bad thing?? If I had the $$$, I would overkill everything. :rockout:
     

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