Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

AlienIsGOD · Aug 1, 2015

i refuse to stay on 7 or 8

upgraded all 4 of my pc's and im not looking back

johnspack · Aug 1, 2015

At this point all I can say is: why ms, why? opensuse is looking better every day.

blobster21 · Aug 1, 2015

rtwjunkie said:
@Ebo, not really. Check out the details on the workaround. That is not a solution. Mussells has reported how it actually works/not works, and the multitude of steps a user has to go through.

@rtwjunkie: Is it the following workaround ? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930

Mussels · Aug 1, 2015

I voted other.
My gaming PC obviously will need DX12, and DX9-11 titles feel smoother compared to 8.1

my non gaming systems are a whole different situation, as i hate the forced windows updates - my internet is garbage and one machine updating makes my internet unusable until its finished.

ypsylon · Aug 1, 2015

Of course I'm.

No matter what I will not downgrade to W10 from W7. Tested 3 builds in entirely closed environment and W10 is trojan-like, laughable attempt to convince me that upgrade is necessary. NT 3.51 or W2K was more interesting and ground breaking that this thing.

But then I'm not hype-DX12-must-upgrade-to-W10-gamer or member of anti-social-networking-gang. Next thing will be probably W10/Face****/T****** integrated power drill.

yesyesloud · Aug 1, 2015

Nah, W10 did the trick for me.

I installed it on another partition yesterday as I couldn't wait for the notification thing.

No issues so far. Pretty happy with the performance boost. I'll never look back.

Hillbilly · Aug 3, 2015

I have installed Windows 10 on my ASUS Transformer Pad T100TA, but for my media center and gaming rig I'm still holding off.

Norton · Aug 3, 2015

lilhasselhoffer said:
God, Allen Bradley software sucks

True statement is true

I have an old laptop setup with XP to deal with Koyo PLC's and some other older stuff. :shadedshu:

On topic- I'll likely stick with Win7 until I need 10 for something... maybe try/buy it the end of the year when I build a gaming only rig.

Aquinus · Aug 3, 2015

Norton said:
True statement is true I have an old laptop setup with XP to deal with Koyo PLC's and some other older stuff.

On topic- I'll likely stick with Win7 until I need 10 for something... maybe try/buy it the end of the year when I build a gaming only rig.

Free upgrade is only for a limited time if I read my articles correctly. So if you wait too long, you're not going to have the option of having a free upgrade. I upgraded so I don't have to spend 200 dollars for a copy of 10 Pro, even if its not polished yet.

lilhasselhoffer · Aug 3, 2015

Aquinus said:
Free upgrade is only for a limited time if I read my articles correctly. So if you wait too long, you're not going to have the option of having a free upgrade. I upgraded so I don't have to spend 200 dollars for a copy of 10 Pro, even if its not polished yet.

During its first year of availability..
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...e-upgrade-for-many-during-its-first-year.html

Yeah, waiting for a few months seems to have very little downside.

Bow · Aug 3, 2015

Going to keep my W7 at least for the next year.

moproblems99 · Aug 3, 2015

I have to agree with junkie, I don't like forced upgrades of anything. There is no compelling reason to upgrade at the moment but that could change with DX12. So I am on the get the kinks out lists. Not to mention I will probably just buy a copy anyway so my win 7 keys are not converted. I may try and use one of my 8.1 Academic Alliance or Dreamspark, what ever it is now, keys.

Dieinafire · Aug 3, 2015

If you're not on windows 10 you're not a gamer

Laughing_Beast · Aug 3, 2015

I upgraded to Win10 from Win7 and all's ok so far. My needs are just very basic though. As is my PC.

Steevo · Aug 3, 2015

After al the information about MS expecting us to pay for a OS where we are also the product being sold, the stupid kiddie interface, and no DX12 games, I will now wait until they get it sorted or until a game I want with DX12 comes out.

Reasons to upgrade.

1) Its new.
2)

Reasons not to upgrade.

1) Its new.
2) Already had issues.
3) No performance gain for games on PC.
4) All the BS that MS is spewing about Xbox gaming makes me want to vomit.
5) I don't care to be used for personalized data mining.
6) It may cost money to use currently free features.
7) Child like interface is clumsy.
8) Have to break parts of the OS to remove unwanted features.
9) No media center.
10) No additional features that I find relevant.

If its free you aren't the consumer, your the product.

Ahhzz · Aug 3, 2015

Dieinafire said:
If you're not on windows 10 you're not a gamer

Obvious troll is obvious.

I'll stick with 7.1 for a while, at least another 6 months. I may spend some of the holiday break moving to 10, but I won't touch it unless I can lock it down tight and force it to work for me, not the other way around.

Random Murderer · Aug 3, 2015

Dieinafire said:
If you're not on windows 10 you're not a gamer

BAHAHAHAHA!
Oh man, that's rich.

Steevo · Aug 3, 2015

Dieinafire said:
If you're not on windows 10 you're not a gamer

All those DX12 titles out are so awesome!!!!

Like......ummm....... there are none. And if you believe that Xbox is "gaming" well. Bag o' dicks to you.

lilhasselhoffer · Aug 3, 2015

Dieinafire said:
If you're not on windows 10 you're not a gamer

Troll or idiot? I have a hard time telling the difference between the two.

There are no DX12 games. Windows 10 doesn't show an immensely marked improvement on memory usage. Windows 10 has already experienced some immensely crappy drivers from AMD and Nvidia.

Windows 10 is for early adopters; it isn't for average consumers, gamers, or anyone who wants a smooth experience. I'm not saying that that isn't possible, but a new OS always brings a bumpy road for some adopters.

eidairaman1 · Aug 4, 2015

qubit said:
So, are you gonna stick with W7 / W8 for as long as possible like with XP refuseniks previously, or are you gonna jump to W10?

I gotta try it out a bit more, plus how good DX12 is and how well it's supported matters significantly, too.

Let's see your votes in the poll and you can select up to three categories.

Im going to give Windows 10 a year and maybe a service pack before I move, Id like to try it on another right before I make the Jump. Windows 7 might be antiquated to the Fellow TPU members but it runs smooth as hell for me. I just fixed 2 XP computers and they are moving quick lol.

Warrgarbl · Aug 4, 2015

I will wait for a while and see how Windows 10 evolves. It's likely that I will upgrade to Windows 10 when I buy a new machine or feel that there is some tangible benefit. As for my work / study laptop I'll probably skip it for quite a while since it will most likely install its bootloader and overwrite my dual boot configuration. I don't feel like dealing with that when 8.1 works fine for me.

EDIT: Oh, and Windows 8.1 just looks nicer for me. I'm not a fan of the new icon set and their refusal to color the window headers. Probably just an adjustment period, but for now I really prefer the way Windows 8.1 looks. The new "start menu" does look nice though.

Atomic77 · Aug 5, 2015

Going to Windows 10 right away is like supporting the selling of aborted baby fetuses.

Mussels · Aug 5, 2015

Atomic77 said:
Going to Windows 10 right away is like supporting the use of aborted baby fetuses.

Use for what? Medical stuff sure, but for table tennis not so much.

Ahhzz · Aug 6, 2015

win7 pro --> Win 10 pro for $70.

http://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SI...nner_B3L_9SIA2KS2KX9798-_-NA-_-9SIA2KS2KX9798

jboydgolfer · Aug 6, 2015

Ahhzz said:
win7 pro --> Win 10 pro for $70.

http://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SI...nner_B3L_9SIA2KS2KX9798-_-NA-_-9SIA2KS2KX9798

can that copy be used for another PC? i know its not supposed to be, but can it?

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Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
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VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	midnight toker
Processor	i7 Skylake QHQF (6700K ES) @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard	ASRock Z170 Pro4S
Cooling	Corsair H100i
Memory	16GB (2x8GB) Samsung DDR4 @ 3200MHz
Video Card(s)	Gigabyte Geforce Gtx 1080 Ti Gaming OC @ 2080MHz
Storage	128GB SSD, 75GB & 2TB HDDs
Display(s)	Acer Predator XB1 XB271HU 27" 1440p 144Hz G-SYNC Monitor
Case	Cooler Master MB511
Audio Device(s)	Philips SHP2000 headphones
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W G2
Mouse	Microsoft Wireless Desktop 3050
Keyboard	same
Software	Arch Linux, Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

System Name	Portable Gamer
Processor	Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard	ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe
Cooling	CPU / Noctua NH-L12 GPU / ARCTIC Accelero S1 Plus
Memory	G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400
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Storage	ADATA SP550 480GB SSD
Display(s)	ASUS 23" LCD
Case	SilverStone Sugo Series SG05BB-LITE
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	SILVERSTONE ST45SF 450W
Mouse	Logitech G500
Keyboard	CMStorm Trigger Z
Software	Windows 8.1 Pro

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Memory	2x16GB GSkill FlareX 3200/c14- 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3600/c16- 2x16GB Team 3600/c18 and etc..
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Storage	Main PC (1TB WD SN850- 2TB PNY CS 3040- 2TB Seagate Firecuda) and etc...
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Case	Phanteks P600s- Seasonic Q704- Fractal Meshify C and etc...
Audio Device(s)	Logitech Z625 THX 2.1 speakers
Power Supply	EVGA 750 G3- SeaSonic DGC 750- EVGA P2 850 and etc...
Mouse	G300s
Keyboard	Corsair K65
VR HMD	N/A
Software	Windows 10 Pro or Ubuntu
Benchmark Scores	Why sit on the Bench when you can get in the game and Crunch!!!

System Name	Apollo
Processor	Intel Core i9 9880H
Motherboard	Some proprietary Apple thing.
Memory	64GB DDR4-2667
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2
Storage	1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External
Display(s)	Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays
Case	MacBook Pro (16", 2019)
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Power Supply	96w Power Adapter
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 3
Keyboard	Logitech G915, GL Clicky
Software	MacOS 12.1

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Processor	AMD RYZEN 9 7950X 4.5ghz 16 Core
Motherboard	MSI MPG X670E Carbon wifi
Cooling	Quench 360 Liquid Cooler
Memory	2x 16GB Kingston Fury Beast DDR 5-5200
Video Card(s)	NVidia GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB GDDR6X
Storage	1TB Kingston NV2 M.2 SSD 2TB 2.5 SanDisk SSD Plus
Display(s)	Asus 28" VP28UQG 4K 3840x2160
Case	Athena M1, 6 Chassis Fans
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA Super Nova 1000W
Mouse	Razer Deathadder
Keyboard	Razer Ornata
Software	Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

System Name	Wut?
Processor	3900X
Motherboard	ASRock Taichi X570
Cooling	Water
Memory	32GB GSkill CL16 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	Vega 56
Storage	2 x AData XPG 8200 Pro 1TB
Display(s)	3440 x 1440
Case	Thermaltake Tower 900
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum

Processor	Intel Pentium G3220
Motherboard	Asus H81M-E
Cooling	stock
Memory	6GB DDR3 1333MHz
Video Card(s)	MSI GTX 960 Gaming 2G
Storage	WD 250GB Blue
Display(s)	LG E2350
Audio Device(s)	on board
Power Supply	SEASONIC 400W SS-400ET F3 80PLUS Bronze
Mouse	Hama uRage MMORPG
Software	Windows 10 64bit

System Name	Compy 386
Processor	7800X3D
Motherboard	Asus
Cooling	Air for now.....
Memory	64 GB DDR5 6400Mhz
Video Card(s)	7900XTX 310 Merc
Storage	Samsung 990 2TB, 2 SP 2TB SSDs and over 10TB spinning
Display(s)	56" Samsung 4K HDR
Audio Device(s)	ATI HDMI
Mouse	Logitech MX518
Keyboard	Razer
Software	A lot.
Benchmark Scores	Its fast. Enough.

System Name	OrangeHaze / Silence
Processor	i7-13700KF / i5-10400 /
Motherboard	ROG STRIX Z690-E / MSI Z490 A-Pro Motherboard
Cooling	Corsair H75 / TT ToughAir 510
Memory	64Gb GSkill Trident Z5 / 32GB Team Dark Za 3600
Video Card(s)	Palit GeForce RTX 2070 / Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4Gb
Storage	Hynix Plat P41 2Tb\Samsung MZVL21 1Tb / Samsung 980 Pro 1Tb
Display(s)	22" Dell Wide/24" Asus
Case	Lian Li PC-101 ATX custom mod / Antec Lanboy Air Black & Blue
Audio Device(s)	SB Audigy 7.1
Power Supply	Corsair Enthusiast TX750
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed Wireless / Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum
Keyboard	K68 RGB — CHERRY® MX Red
Software	Win10 Pro \ RIP:Win 7 Ult 64 bit

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Motherboard	Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme \| Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling	Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators \| Corsair H80i
Memory	4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 \| 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s)	Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 \| PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage	Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others \| 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s)	Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS \| Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case	Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) \| Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s)	RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 \| HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply	LEPA G1600-MA 1600W \| Corsair CX750M 750W
Software	Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores	over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"

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Processor	AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard	Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling	Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory	16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s)	AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s)	NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case	AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s)	Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply	Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse	Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard	Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software	Windows 7 Pro 64

System Name	Upgraded Not-So-Silent-Anymore Black Box That Computes
Processor	Intel i7-6700k @ 4.4Ghz / 1.24V
Motherboard	Asus Sabertooth Z170S
Cooling	BeQuiet Dark Rock 3
Memory	2x 8GB 3000Mhz Corsair Vengeance LP (CL15)
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix GTX1080
Storage	256GB Samsung 850 Pro / 500GB Samsung 840 Evo / 3TB WD Green
Display(s)	24" Asus PB248Q (1.920x1.200)
Case	Fractal Define R3 / 3x 120mm Corsair AF case fans
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar DX
Power Supply	Corsair RM750i
Mouse	Logitech G700
Keyboard	Logitech G710+
Software	Windows 10 Professional / Arch Linux Dualboot

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Processor	11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz / Ryzen 5 3500u
Memory	16GB /12GB
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA MX 330 / Radeon Vega 8
Storage	1TB +SSD
Display(s)	23.8 inch touch screen 17.3 touch screen
Case	DELL AIO / HP LAPTOP
Mouse	Dell Wireless /LOGITECH
Keyboard	Dell Wireless / HP LAPTOP
Software	WINDOWS 11

System Name	Americas cure is the death of Social Justice & Political Correctness
Processor	i7-11700K
Motherboard	Asrock Z590 Extreme wifi 6E
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12A
Memory	32GB Corsair RGB fancy boi 5000
Video Card(s)	RTX 3090 Reference
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1Tb + Samsung 970 Evo 500Gb
Display(s)	Dell - 27" LED QHD G-SYNC x2
Case	Fractal Design Meshify-C
Audio Device(s)	on board
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus+ Gold 1000 Watt
Mouse	Logitech G502 spectrum
Keyboard	AZIO MGK-1 RGB (Kaith Blue)
Software	Win 10 Professional 64 bit
Benchmark Scores	the MLGeesiest

Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

Now that W10 is out, are you a W7/W8 refusenik?

Yes

No

Wait and see how W10 develops over the next few months

Gotta try it out a bit more

Depends on how good DX12 is and the support it gets

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