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NVIDIA Designs GeForce GTX 460

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  1. btarunr

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    NVIDIA is said to be working on another GF100-based SKU, which further cuts down from the GeForce GTX 470. The new SKU, GeForce GTX 460, is expected to rival ATI Radeon HD 5850 in the sub-$300 market segment. The GF100 will be configured to have a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface, driving 1024 MB (1 GB) of memory. Clock speeds could be another thing NVIDIA uses as the determining factor. The GTX 460 will not have a reference design as such, and AIC partners will be allowed to release their own designs from day one. The new SKU is expected to release in June. Pictured below is the GTX 470 PCB.

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    With this coming out GTX 480 will go EOL 'soon' and the awaited full shader GTX 485 would make sense with 512, GTX 470 with 448 and GTX 460 with 384 shaders. Even 64 drop for cuda cores.

    Best thing about it will be the free hands, that could mean great stock cooler/good prices. Anyhow, more cards to the market=hopefully lower prices.
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    The GTX 470 is more expensive than the 5850 but is its direct rival in terms of performance.

    So if the GTX 460 is a rival of the 5850 in terms of price...
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    Lets just hope that is is not another 5830. :shadedshu
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    right? lol... although if they keep disabling bad cores it might allow the clockspeeds to come up. And as the 480 can already hit 800 mhz, maybe this one will have a little more in the tank, like the 192 core gtx 260's
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    this might be the card for me.
    I can see this being a $250-275 card, and posibly as fast as the GTX480 when paired for SLI.
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    It won't rival the 5850 in June, the 6850 will be out just after that and ill forget all about the GTX460.
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    hopefully it will bring prices down on the 5XXX series :)
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    wait . . . . no reference design . . . . . . if thats the case we will probably some with different amounts of SP's and this has 32 rops

    maybe some partners will use some thing similar to this
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    Maybe it is just me, but all the reviews I've read put the GTX 470 right at the same performance level as the HD 5870, not the HD 5850...

    “ [The GTX 470] nevertheless is able to stand up to the Radeon HD 5870. Depending on the individual test Nvidia's card is slightly faster or slower than HD 5870/1G.” ‒pcgameshardware.com
    “The GeForce GTX 470 is in a slightly different situation as we find its performance much closer to that of the HD 5870 but at a lower price.” ‒pcper.com
    I'd like to see W1z do a review on the GTX 470 before really believing anything, but I'm guessing nVidia is dragging it's feet sending him a review sample, or he is busy rebenching all the other cards with latest drivers. But all the other reviews say pretty similar things, putting the GTX 470 right at the level of the HD 5870, sometimes slightly behind, sometimes slightly ahead depending on the benchmarks used.


    No reference design means no standard PCB, but they will still be bound by the GPU specs.
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    Opinions are like arseholes, we all have them but some stink more than others...



    My opinion is the 470 is nowhere near a 5870 in all but the most extreme TWIMTBP titles, in fact the 5870 is at the the same level or even higher in some games than the 480.


    We can all cherry pick reviews when it suits our needs ;)

    http://techreport.com/articles.x/18682/1



    GeForce GTX 470

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review/8

    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/03/28/nvidia-geforce-gtx-470-1-1280mb-review/12
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    That's a GTX 480 PCB. You can tell from the 12 memory chip pads.
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    Indeed you can, which is why I said the reviews that I have read seem to put it at the HD5870 level, and also why I said I'd like to see a W1z review before believing anything. I tend to ignore any review that puts it below HD5850 level though, because I know that isn't possible for everything else I've seen. With the GTX480 performing so much better than the HD 5870, I can't believe that is that huge of a swing in performance down to the GTX470.
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    “Starting from the bottom up, we would say the least relevant video card is the GeForce GTX 470. In all our gameplay testing today, not once did the GeForce GTX 470 provide a superior gameplay experience compared to the Radeon HD 5850, even in Metro 2033. In fact, performance was very close between both video cards, and in some cases the Radeon HD 5850 proved to provide faster framerates. Looking strictly at performance, these video cards are equal.” ‒hardocp.com
    “The GeForce GTX 470 then -- obviously this card is lined up against ATI's Radeon HD 5850. It can compete with it quite well. Price wise it's definitely the more interesting of the two cards tested today. We expect that, once volume availability kicks in, this card will drop to roughly 300 USD. Performance wise we are looking at a product that positions itself smack down in the middle ATI's Radeon HD 5850 performance level and as such it's a really nice card to own.” ‒guru3d.com
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    I wonder what performance will be. Im still undecided on which next gen gpu to get.
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    I'm pretty sure that's what Nvidia dual GPU solution will be based upon, or a hybrid using this core and a GTX470's memory system.
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    I am also very undecided on which card to get next. I currently have a GTX260 so i think that the 5770 is out of the question if i want to go up in terms of power. If the GTX460 performs like a 5850 then it will be down to price.

    Simply i cant afford a £220 card but the £100 cards are far too low in terms of performance to justify an upgrade, i need something in-between like £140-185 with a bit of a jump in performance.
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    Wizzy are you able to disable 1 SM & 8 ROPs from the GTX 470 via BIOS and try to simulate the 460's performance?
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    That makes no sense and find it hard to believe.
    1. Some places are listing the 470 in that price range.
    2. Who the hell buys a mid-range card at $300? Oh wait the 8800GT, lol!
    3. I won't be surprised if this card goes up against the 5830 or 5700 series.
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    1. That's what it SHOULD cost, along with a rebate for the power company. :laugh:
    2. I bought mine for $215 when it came out... It was the same price as 3870.
    3. No way... maybe 5830, but that card kind of sucks for the price. i think it willbe between 5830 and 5850 and they might be able to get the clocks up a bit.
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    I'm not undecided, I've just decided not to go with any. I'm skipping this generation. Here is my think:

    My current cards: HD4890/GTX285/GTX260

    HD5970: Too expensive, dealing with Crossfire is a pain, no more dual-GPU/Card solutions for me.
    GTX480: Too hot, too expensive.
    HD5870: Not worth the price over the HD5850.
    GTX470: Might be good if it matches HD5870, but still probably too hot for me.
    HD5850: Really only about 10% better than the GTX285, not really worth the $300. Though this is probably the card I would most likely go with if I did upgrade. Probably a decent upgrade over the HD4890/GTX260.
    HD5830: What a joke, same performance as the HD5770 for $100 more!
    HD5770: Performs the same as my GTX260, worse then all my other cards, no thanks.

    Conclusion: I'm sticking with what I have.

    1.) Where?
    2.) What mid-range card? No card talked about here(excpet the HD5770) is even close to mid-range.
    3.) Doubt it, more than likely very close to HD5850 performance.
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    1. No way a 460 should cost $300 and you want to brag that you got a 8800 GT fpr $215 :slap:
    2. I'm talking about when they 1st released it along with it's limited availability. Here is a bit from the tabs of history
    3. I believe it will and if they clock it up it probably will also be a hot, power hungry mess. But I'll wait and see :D
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    Either way, if this card is close to 5850 performance, I'd rather get the 5850. If I'm going to get a card with the GF100 chip on it, it's gotta be the 480. It will be very interesting to see how it does on a smaller card, and/or with a reworked power delivery system.

    What I'd really like to see is running all of these cards on air with good (max) overclocks on them and then do a comparison. I'd like to see if my 5850 on air overclocked can go head to head with a GTX480 overclocked.
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    I'm gonna kinda have to disagree with you there on the 5970. It sure is expensive. But you get killer performance for what you pay... That's all I'm saying. :)

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