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NVIDIA Engaged in PsyOps Against HD 7970: Chinese Forum

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. btarunr

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    A lot has been said about NVIDIA's upcoming product with which it will compete against AMD's Radeon HD 7900 series, except of course, pictures, benchmarks, and so on. Chinese tech forum ChipHell accused NVIDIA of deploying shills across forums to shape public opinion about the already-launched HD 7900 series, towards waiting for NVIDIA's competitive product, these include blind talk about imaginary performance superiority, killer price, etc.

    Chinese forums have recognized patterns in this spurt of anti-AMD and pro-HD 7970 imaginary-competitor product posts and banned scores of user accounts engaged in this activity. There's a very potent reason why ChipHell's observations shouldn't be met with cynicism, or made light of. In China, competing factions in the ever-ruling Communist party have been known to use what is known as "the 50 cent army", where for a pittance, scores of internet forum posters can be engaged to perform coordinated PsyOps, to shape public opinion, and maintain public support. It is only natural, then, that competing companies in the extremely competitive Chinese domestic market resort to similar tactics, including those distributing NVIDIA GeForce graphics cards, or, as Chip Hell alleges, NVIDIA itself.

    Source: Hard|OCP
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    no surprise, i am sure older members on this forum will remember how nvidia paid well respected members of tech forums to make pro nvidia posts.
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    I am an old member - but i dont recall any of this stuff :wtf::wtf:
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    They really need to put up or shut up. It's not like they're slowing sales of the constantly sold out 7970 anyway.
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    High end isn't that incisive on market, hence Nvidia hasn't that much hurry to get their product out, midrange is more important because the volumes sold are much higher.
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    Midrange is what they are claiming will beat the 7970. They still need to put up or shut up.
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    This all sounds really underhand. I wonder if AMD resorts to the same tactics? I tend to think they would.
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    this doesn't surprise me one bit funny my low post count but my join date is older than the op's :)
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    Although not necessarily through myriads of forum posts, this would count.
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    This is why everything posted by any forum member should be thought of as BS. Until I see W1zz's or Daves benchmarks its all bullshit.
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    Well, Charlie absolutely refutes the Chiphell post:

    http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=150135&postcount=374

    Given his position on Nvidia as a company and reading through the S/A forum and seeing his posts and the forums response, I'm thinking CD knows more than the stuff filtering from Chiphell.

    And let's face it, what's stopping AMD using the same tactics to have actually started this new, Nvidia conspiracy?

    Too many web folk read one thing and attach 100% truth to it. Me? I'm leaning back to a watercooled 7970 unless i hear from NV soon.

    As MM and many others have said, all rumours for now and we'll know when the goods hit the floor.
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    On a side note Charlie is full of shit against Nvidia or for Nvidia. W1zz benches or bust.
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    Yeah, I know - I stopped using the Enquirer a long time ago as i was sick of his anti Nvidia venom whilst licking ATI (at the time) donkey dick. So his recent 'neutrality' and positive view on Kepler makes it seem very plausible, NV have sorted things out this time round.

    But I also couldn't agree more, I dont count on anything until the cards get benched (and i also multi source reviews from a few other neutral sites).
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    Really, the odds of this being true are rather slim, in my opinion. I'm not saying it's impossible, but even if it is, it has to have a limited impact. Yes, there's a lot of rumours about Kepler, but why can't it just be people speculating? Speculation is just that, guessing what it's going to be like with little to no thrustworthy information to base yourself on.
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    The fact Charlie used to scream anti-Nivida crap all the time that WASN'T TRUE makes me believe Chiphell. That scum bag could be bought easy.
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    I don't know if you pay attention to hardware much, but even people on these forums normally buy the high end mid-range products. But when it comes down to red/green camps or AMD/Intel, the arguments will always come down to what company makes the fastest chip, even if it's something like say a $1000 processor that almost no one has. Just because not many people have the budget for it is besides the point, that top dog product gives the fanboys without the bank rolls for it something to rally behind and wave as their flag, to show their companies dominance in the market. So they might not actually bring in a ton of money themselves, but just them existing, is important.
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    The fact that HD 7970 exists and is ready to sell, while that Kepler bogie isn't. Since Kepler doesn't exist, those behind this mischief can claim Kepler to have virtually any kind of performance/power-consumption/price figure, while AMD can't, since its performance/power/price figures are already out and tested.

    Also, the fact that AMD can also resort to such practice, doesn't legitimize it.
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    Never said it did. I simply said that there's nothing stopping AMD also being involved. Espionage also has a bedfellow called counter espionage. In a billion dollar industry it would be utterly naive to think only one side would try dirty tactics.

    There is no actual proof NV (or associated individuals) is involved and no proof AMD (or associated individuals) isn't - that's my viewpoint here. Until i have confirmed* facts, the web and all media for that matter is nothing more than an interesting story.

    *Which in itself is an existentionalist philosophical roundabout.
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    This round in GPU wars ain't cheap for end-users. AMD pricing is a lot like Nvidia-s, even higher. That is not MSRP $249-$349 for HD4870/4850 , or $259-$379 for HD5850/5870, or $299-$369 for HD6970/6950. We are facing $???-$550 MSRP for HD7950/7970, even worse $650-$750 in Europe. That is over 200% higher price for Europe, compared to previous AMD generation and lot worse, as we accounted $199 HD4850 vs. $650 HD7950. So let's see what GK104 can do. Patience can pay off this time.
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    Hai guys! I just wanted to say that Kepler ends world hunger and brings world peace and you should totally buy it! Oh wait...
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    I hear Kepler is powered off the stolen heart of an orphaned child.
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    Yeah but it also has an irregular heart rate.
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    Johannes Kepler is a great astronomer. A bunch of people in his time were also that great... , if they could prove what they were saying or writing , like Giordano Bruno forinstance. It turns out that only Kepler can prove his findings. Holy Inquisition did a great mistake back then, killing Bruno, not Kepler. I see RIAA taking notes, when MegaUpload was closed recently.
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    I've heard that Kepler is made with the blood of baby seals... You heard it here first...:rolleyes:

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