Seriously, this thread certainly did take a turn...lol W1z still does the best reviews on the net. PERIOD. They are the only reviews I trust fully. The drivers uses are not that old, something like 3 months, W1z tends to do a complete rebench with the latest drivers every quarter, which means new driver review will likely be coming. W1z could have benched just the HD5800 cards with the new drivers, but then people would still bitch about the older drivers being used with the older cards, and the review not helping give an idea of how much of a performance boost people get over their current cards... It is lose lose. I'd rather see one single driver used for all the cards than some cards with one driver and others with another. Having a few nice constructive comments about the older drivers would have been fine, however IMO going on and on about it, posting the same non-constructive comments about it and implying that W1z doesn't know what he is doing is nothing more than trolling and flaming, and it should be handled as such with infractions and bans. You don't just come onto HIS website and start bashing his work, it isn't acceptable. If you can't make your comments constructive, DON'T make any. IMO, posts about the drivers by the following people should have been deleted, and met with infactions or bans: crow1001 Reefer86 rpsgc Semi-Lobster a_ump Dahaka And mind you, that isn't everyone that talked about the drivers, just those that were really just trolling about them and had crap like WTF and FAIL in the post, and nothing contructive. IMO, the comments for a review should be able the product, and not the review process itself. A constructive comment or two about a certain issue with the review is fine, but once it is posted by someone else, that is it, no need to repost the same thing 30 times.