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NVIDIA Preparing GeForce GTX 780 GHz Edition?

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  1. btarunr

    btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    With AMD's Radeon R9 290X and the upcoming Radeon R9 290, both NVIDIA's GTX TITAN, and GTX 780 are disrupted at their price points. NVIDIA is fixing its GTX TITAN competitive woes with the GeForce GTX 780 Ti, but it's looking like the GTX 780, despite its price cut to $500, could face trouble from the cheaper Radeon R9 290. NVIDIA's more hands-on solution? Launch a new SKU, that's and backed by non-reference designs for the most part, which some of its add-in card (AIC) partners are referring to as "GeForce GTX 780 GHz Edition."

    Simply put, the "GeForce GTX 780 GHz Edition" is your ordinary GTX 780 with increased clock speeds of 1006 MHz core, 1046 MHz GPU Boost, and an untouched 6.00 GHz memory. The card is based on a new stepping of the GK110 silicon, labeled "GK110-300-B1," compared to the original's "GK110-300-A1." Expreview discovered its Inno3D GTX 780 iChill HerculeZ 3000 graphics card to be based on this new silicon, and at its given speeds of 1006/1046/6008 MHz, found to to be about 15 percent faster than a standard GTX 780, and about 7 percent faster than a GTX TITAN. It's also about 6.2 percent faster than an R9 290X on the same test-bed. Power consumption isn't up significantly, and the cooler that's an Arctic Cooling solution, does a good job at keeping the temperatures manageable, and keeps throttle limits away. Find the complete review at the source.

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    good lord

    so GTX 780ti> Gtx 780 GHz> Titan> Gtx 780.:banghead: Christ nvidia, you are not giving much confidence to you consumers.
     
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    With a modded BIOS you can hit stable 1100+/3500+ easy on a stock 780. So I guess I already have the GHz edition. :rolleyes:
     
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    Looks like nvidia is really on the ropes,i wish they would make more price cuts instead of this though.
     
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    if you took out Titan from the equation it makes more sense, the 700 series looks like this:

    GTX 780ti> Gtx 780 GHz> Gtx 780

    as you can even see from the naming scheme the Titan was never designed to be a full throttle gaming card
     
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    i would like to wait R9-290X-Ti from AMD for sure.. :rockout:
    then i guess nvidia will respond with 780 Ghz Ti Ultra :eek:

    and finally Titan Ghz Ultra Ti :rockout:


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    Well AMD has a problem as well, how to clock and price 290 that doesn't completely screw 290x outta the market. most after market cards are OC'ed to 1000+ mhz, mine boosts to 1160mhz with room for other +50mhz gpu and +400 on ram. Wasn't even trying to get every mhz outta it. with a clock bump to 1000 mhz and say +250mhz on ram i think 780 would almost be neck and neck with 290x on top of that 290x not having game bundle with it atm puts amd in the hole that amd had nvidia in 6+ months ago.
     
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    Okay this is confusing, when are we going to hear something official from them!!?

    If i remember correctly isn't the iChill HerculeZ is Inno3D's own cooler?
     
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    C'mon Nvidia get a grip. You guys have only just realized that AMD has been gaining ground in the GPU business for quite a while. Imagine that they are still selling strong two years after release and they are still going to be selling strong for a while thanks to the new re-brands and backward compatibility. On top of that they delivered a product that competes on the same level as your "best" product for a little over half of the price that such product sells. If you didn't notice then you should fire all your market analysts because you've been punked.

    **Not an AMD fanboy just in case, I have Nvidia cards in both my machines but I am kinda angry at the green team because they have been overpricing the crap out of every single product they've released at least for the past two years selling marginal upgrades to existing products. Geforce 8800 GT-> rebranded to 9800GT (price premium)-> 8800 GTX banished-> 9800 GTX (a little better than an 8800 (9800GT). The 2 series (260, 270, 280, etc...) totally forgettable and some of them overclocked rebrands (GT 250), four series, tollaly forgettable too with the exception of the 460 which was the only card that didn't melt because of its heat output. Then a true upgrade the 5 series even the 560 which was a super overclocked 460 but even then the difference in performance was really noticeable. 580, 570 really memorable cards good tough work horses. Six series was basically good overall and I see no reason to upgrade to the 7 series unless you're looking for super high resolution gaming across multiple screens. 780 ti, Ghz ed just gimmicks trying to steal AMD's Thunder and failing miserably. Titan is a great card stuck on the market due to its ridiculous price tag, the 7 crown jewel being the GTX 770 (better if its the 4GB ed), Two of them for $660 put any of the other overpriced cards out of the water or two 7970's (280x) for $600 would keep you warm and cozy for a while. I being one who fell to the Nvidia 7 fever would urge you fellow gamers and enthusiasts; skip this half assed generation of upcoming Nvidia cards and wait for the new ones next year (4K gaming works somewhat but triple screens c'mon I see the beginning of another Nvidia 3D Vision) or buy one of the aftermarket (mid to late November) AMD 290X's (because lets be real these New AMD cards rock but they are really helping glacial melting) with needed aftermarket cooling. The 290 seems to be the sweet spot though, so even if you're rich or have money to burn; Don't let the companies keep us, the gaming community, buying unneeded hardware because they need to splurge out some leftover silicon. It's not about economics or social class, its about us gaming, this is what we do.

    Terribly sorry for the rant but had been holding back for a couple of weeks and finally Nvidia made me say it.
     
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    This highlights the fundamental disparity between the two chips. Because GK110 is power efficient (relatively), cool, and has a lot of clocking headroom it can easily be adjusted to slot in around or above the AMDs parts; whichever Nvidia feels like doing. The whole Kepler line is like this really. Whereas AMD has to push their designs closer to the edge to get comparative performance while throwing efficiency out the window. I remember back before the GHz edition and boost cards AMD was a bit closer to Kepler on power efficiency. It's kind of ridiculous when you think about how old Kepler is now and just how long Nvidia sat on GK110 before bringing it to the consumer scape. They're coasting on it. This is why it's so baffling when I see people talk like "yeah AMDs really sticking it to nvidia now." This show is still run by Nvidia and they know it. That's why their response is a new ridiculously priced and overshooting $700 card instead of something cheaper that's more head to head. They've gotten addicted to these absurd profit margins Kepler has brought them.
     
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    I really hope not, I hope they release it on some new space age silicon that actually pulls them apart from the herd. The problem now is that anyone with two cards would be able to match it and I really don't want to know the price.
     
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    For such a prideful company like nVidia?Nah..you're to naive to admit nVidia will skip GTX 790 after successful GTX 590 and GTX 690.
     
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    I think it's high time Nvidia did something with guts, like a 780 Subway Edition with a 4 slot chambered heatsink that doubles as a toaster oven for foot long sandwiches.
     
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    And some people are saying AMD is not competitive.....??


    Anyway, I'm gonna drop my cash on the AMD 290X Ass Reamer edition.
     
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    Better yet it should cook/toast fairly quickly being a fan-forced oven too! :D
     
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    RCoon Gaming Moderator Staff Member

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    People honestly didn't expect this? This has been the name of the game for a few years now.
     
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    The reason we are in this mess, is not because AMD or Nvidia are trying to milk there tech , it is because both farm out there chips to fabs and they are stuck in shrinking a complex chip like GPU . Memory is a lot easier to shrink and why you see that progress .
    Until fabs can get below 20-22nm we are going to be stuck here and each step down will take longer .

    Unless Intel would take there work , which not sure would ever happen ,just on price but you never know .

    here good read on it
    http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/Next-Gen-Graphics-and-Process-Migration-20-nm-and-Beyond
     
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    NVIDIA sets the prices the market can bear. No one forces or has ever forced you to buy any NVIDIA GPU.

    Case closed.

    /Thread.
     
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    Ironic that we sit here bickering about Green team this, and Red team that. When in reality as consumers the closer the competition, that is the easier it is to swap an Nvidia card for an AMD card, price for price, performance for performance. The more they have to compete on pricing. When 1 company has a vastly superior product, they get to bill a premium. Outside of collusion of course.
     
  23. N3M3515

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    Ithink GHz>Ti
     
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    How dare you bring logic to this thread!

    Totally agree, the consumer is the inevitable victor in this price and/or performance war.
     
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    Conclusion for the people that can't stand overpriced products (including me), don't buy them!, and wait for a price war. :)
     

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