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NVIDIA Responds to Radeon HD 4830 Launch, Claims GeForce 9800 GT is Better

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Oct 26, 2008.

  1. btarunr

    btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Staff Member

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    NVIDIA has issued a slide-show, a consolidated presentation taking into account, the findings of some review sources. In short, NVIDIA claims that the GeForce 9800 GT is not only faster than Radeon HD 4830, but also that its value-added features such as the CUDA HPC foundation and PhysX acceleration amount to a superior product all in all. Donanim Haber got their hands on this slide-show before anyone could, so here goes: GeForce 9800 GT vs. Radeon HD 4830 - a presentation by NVIDIA.

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    The "AMD Radeon HD 4830" they highlighted in those TechPowerUp charts is the sample that was found to have 560 stream processors instead of the 640 SPs according to AMD's specifications. Use the green bar (PowerColor HD 4830) for reference if need be.

    Source: Donanim Haber
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    I hate propaganda and negative marketing. It's just annoying, and makes me lose respect for the purveyor of such trash.
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  3. btarunr

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    Just as we published the AMD HD 4830 review, we made sure people were aware it had that shader-deficiency issue, by means of an article, news and pointers in the review itself. I'm surprised NVIDIA actually used the AMD card's graphs for its presentation.
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    Such a presentation should be prevented from release as its clearly libel considering how they are claiming that the 4830 (640SP, consumer model) is inferior to the 9800GT using TPU's graphs without asking.

    Nvidia is getting desperate.
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    Talk about shady... And I love how they use five different TechPU graphs while entirely neglecting the overall performance charts where the 4830 leads in every single one by a margin anywhere from 1-4%. Now admittedly we're still talking within a reasonable margin of error here, but seriously nVidia?
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    W1zz needs to stop Nvidia from publishing this propaganda, with legal action.
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    i think there is no chance to troll , look 800gt better , but what about graphic quality i think it is not same specially with new nvidia driver i feel they decrease the quality to increase performance
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    Talk about fail, they even used 8800GT in that chart =) Yeah we all know it's the same, but they are talking about 9800GT still :)
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    Give it up nVidia, it's AMD/ATi's turn this time round.
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    i really hope TPU takes legal action against NV, they are just trying to stir up the nest because they know their MGPU field is plagued by problems, and who knows how far that goes into the desktop parts.
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    i hate it when companies use propaganda to sell their products.. i know that creating a new and better product is harder but IMO do that or shut up!and that goes for all companies.. they should understand that we canot be fooled by such means.:shadedshu

    P.S. Wizz that article was very well written. as always ..:rockout:
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    This is just disgusting of NV to use TPU´s picture´s in their propaganda, I too hope someone in TPU crew takes legal action against Nvidia! This just made me loose respect for the green team, if I had any before its all gone now.
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    Nvidia lost me at the thousands of rebadges..
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    looks like nvidia just shoot iself in teh foot
    why? look at the top of the graphs
    4850/4870 series looks great
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    what are nvidia doing , they trying to beat 4830 that is beginners fight , better try with x2
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    Perhaps they are scared and they want to advertise their products better against AMD/ATI.

    Edit: [sarcasm]Wow, 9800GT gains up to 2FPS in games without Phsyx compared to HD4830?? That is some serious power![/sarcasm]
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    yet another desperate attemp from nvidia:shadedshu,

    why they not respond with stop producing 8800gt(9800gt) and make scalled down GT200 core,
    just like amd do with their hd 4000 series.
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    Nvidia why so serious??
    AMD:D
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    bwahahahah, nvidia epic fail. they marked the benchmarks that are from the 560 sp card.

    other than that, anyone is free to quote our data as long as sources are given and the data is not modified.
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    EPIC FAIL.

    Those guys that put this silly presentation together should be fired:

    1./ For not doing THEIR homework, only C+P other peeps material
    2./ For getting it wrong!
    3./ Wasting corporate time (thier salaries etc.)
    4./ For getting very -ve press now on the TPU site :) hehe ... and soon elsewhere and everywhere
    5./ For brand damage

    Good bye, nVidia employee dunces. Hope you can get a new job soon... stacking shelves. LOL :roll:
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    I am not a "fan" of either brand I prefer the best performance per $. I have always liked both brands as that is what keeps pushing the technology having the competition to be the best. We see how the prices go when one company rules the market. But that is a sad thing to do from the Nvidia camp.
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    So glad I decided to go with the Sapphire 4850. :D

    W1zz, this is why putting an OCed graph would be good too. You said the 4830 was getting up to the 4870 in performance. Some proof of that, even without all the shaders, would have given Nvida a harder time skewing your results.

    On the other hand, you must be kinda honored to know that someone in Nvida's sales force is reading your work. :p
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    wow, nvidia must be getting really desperate. How pathetic of them. :shadedshu
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    I lost respect for nvidia a while back when they did the same thing.
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    Wow this just knocked Nvidia down another few notches in my book, FAIL! just FAIL!

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