Odd Default Settings on x1900xtx

[ff2k]

Tried that with the driver cleaner and everything although it got me nowhere.

 

[KennyT772]

ok guys heres the basics. it isnt a psu issue its software period. uninstall all ati drivers and atitool, use driver cleaner, then install ONLY the driver. dont install CCC. then install atitool .25b16. if 3d hangs on that something is def wrong with the card but thats a very small chance. also update chipset drivers sound drivers and any other driver that could be causing it. then go start>run>services.msc. stop and disable the two ati services: hotkey poller and smart. once u have done all that run atitool and try the 3d view. if you want 3d clocks then search around and find the voltages neccesary and set them to a profile. you will want to set higher fan speeds at this point too. on my x1800xt i made a third desktop profile with very low clocks and voltages to prolong the life of my card. i reccomend that also.

 

[ff2k]

Hi! This 2d/3d thing of Ati's is very annoying and troublesome.

I have ATitool defaulting to my proper clock and voltages. Is there any way to set a default "desktop" clock/voltage and then have it automatically detect a game and raise them to a gaming profile, similar to how ati tries to do it (but fails it seems)? Or do you have to manually set the profiles whenever the game is started ? ( I am aware you'd have to keep atitool open all the time, although i'm not thatbothered about that).

 

[KennyT772]

um yeah there is. settings>3d detection. im not saying this to be mean but read my entire post, and mess around with atitool a bit. it is a very configurable and powerful program if you know how to use it correctly.

if you have any further questions dont worry about asking, just make an attempt to find out for yourself first.

 

[ff2k]

I knew that existed i was just unsure if it is the same as Ati's one as this is all very confusing to me at first glance, so I thought it would be best to ask.

 

[KennyT772]

well thats what we are here for

 

[Urlyin]

Read this .. might help

 

[Sasqui]

Are you having any luck with the new Power supply?

Huk and ff2k - Unless there is some other weird common demonitor, I'm at a loss. I am quite convinced that my card is unable to detect or handle 3D speeds - it's faulty. I tried a different PSU - 600W Sli X-Finity with the same result...

- Perhaps there is a problem with the OS, drivers or services (I did a completely new XP install on a clean drive, no ATITool, so I doubt this)
- Something with chipset or other hardware? Look at my system specs.
- In 3Dmark05, w/ my unlocked X800GTO I got 6300, with the X1900XTX I got 7400, the sad part is the X1900XTX graphics look better!!!
- Cat 6.9 overclocking optimizer would not let me go any higher than stock (with both PSU's)
- I suspect the card/driver/poller has a failsafe that pushes it back to 2D clocks when an error is detected (voltage, artifacts, heat... etc.)

Perhaps there is an issue with OEM heatsink installation, but I don't care at this point - I'm sending the card back Quite simply, I give up. I feel I've tried everything.

 

[ff2k]

Sasqui, you seriously have my sympathy, although I have not got a perfect situation yours seems very unfortunate, and I would have been driven mad to be in it!

Have you tried contacting ATi support (opening a ticket)? They take absolutely ages to respond to you, but it might be worth trying (although you may have already done this).

Good luck with getting a replacement card - I hope the system works then! My worst fear is receving a replacement and going through the stress of sending a faulty one back, only to find out the problem is still there! I'm sure this will not happen though.

 

[Huxley2k7]

Well gotta hand it to ya Sasqui, you tried mate! Hope it all works out for ya! (Fucking graphics cards never go as smooth as you want when you get em, eh?!)

I think its obvious that ATi Tool is your enemy and most other X1000 Series users.

 

[Sasqui]

Have you tried contacting ATi support (opening a ticket)? They take absolutely ages to respond to you, but it might be worth trying (although you may have already done this).

It's an MSI card and I really don't want to go through them when I can just get my $ back (not incl shippng.). If I contacted ATI, you know what they would say... Yea, I thought about that.

I think its obvious that ATi Tool is your enemy and most other X1000 Series users.

W1zzard will get ATItool to work seemlessly with the poller - there's interface design and integration with the stuff that's there, along with some other hurldles - it's just a matter of time. I'm still totally an ATITool fan, haven't re-installed it with my X800GTO yet (which seems to be hummin for now).

A series of unfortunate events for sure, crap. Good luck. Oh - and I'll post when I get a replacement. I'm patiently searching for deal like the one I got.

 

[Huxley2k7]

Yeah let us know how you get on, especially with ATi Tool if you install it again with your new graphics card.

 

[Aurahead]

Hi I know this thread maybe be old but.
I have been reading everything and I try to do same here. I have disable ati2evxx.exe (disable hotkey poller) and when I have reboot system the ATI wont let me adjust core/mem. Its stuck on 500/600, why? I though it would stop using 2D if I disable hotkey poller and stop ati2evexx.exe? Im I doing something wrong?


Thnx

 

[Huxley2k7]

Thats okay, the 500/600 is what it will be when your on the Desktop. When you enter a game, it will go to 600/720.

Download 'Systool'. When its installed, under 'hardware monitoring', you will see 'Core' and 'Memory' frequency monitors. If you check that, you will see that your Core and Mem is going up when you enter 3D applications.

 

[Sasqui]

I just ordered a Sapphire X1900XTX last night... bit the bullet - I'll get this thread heated up when I put it in... cheers.

 

[Huxley2k7]

Woo hoo nice one Sasqui, same card as me - its a beauty alright but runs as hot as hell. I'm stabling 89*C on load and 49*C Idle, which isnt bad idle, but for the load - i dont like it, but im told its normal for the X1000 series.

Also make sure you got 2GB ram backing it up, mine is slacking big time as i only have 1GB ram and it stinks. Same goes for the processor but mines okay there, AMD 3700.

 

[Sasqui]

So what bacame of your situation? Did you get the card to run at 3D speeds?

 

[Sasqui]

Woo hoo nice one Sasqui, same card as me - its a beauty alright but runs as hot as hell. I'm stabling 89*C on load and 49*C Idle, which isnt bad idle, but for the load - i dont like it, but im told its normal for the X1000 series.

Also make sure you got 2GB ram backing it up, mine is slacking big time as i only have 1GB ram and it stinks. Same goes for the processor but mines okay there, AMD 3700.

Got my Sapphire X1900XTX yesterday (a day early)... whoohoo!

Cat 6.9... 3DMark05 Benchmarks are still low (7000-8000), but the card is stable and overclockable - I see a noticeable difference when pushing the core higher - the MSI card I RMA'd was unstable and would not go any higher than the stock "requested" clocks in CCC.

I ran the automated overclocking utility in CCC, it got to the max of 700 (698) on the core and set it there! Max temp I saw was 81c, idle is 42c. Interesting thing is that the memory did not budge. nor did the fan ever kick in (what's up with that?).

I am kinda bummed that this card is touchy when it comes to the PCIx bus speed - anything over 112 and it becomes unstable, so my CPU overclocking is limted to 230 FSB (motherboard limitation!).

I have not installed ATITool (yet)... I'm going to start a separate thread regarding CCC / overclocking.

 

[Old Bear]

I've allredy combined ATItool & CCC but fan speeds go wild when I close ATItool, but my overdrive works fine. But when fan works other than default GPU clock goes up to the top and mem clock stays on 747. On default fan GPU goes to 668 and mem up to 792. This works fine but I'd like to set fan speed on "Try to...70deg". Every time I close ATItool fan setings go bzrk! How can I make it stay on 70?