Hi, im sure you remembered my scruffy PC, well this is what it looks like now GPU (X1600 pro 512mb) Temps no longer see 70oC but 66oC MAX when overclocked to 630Mhz! Id like to say thanks for the advice etc to all those that gave it. Now then, ive done a little search on overclocking my motherboard and all i could find was threads that show me how to solder a few wires about and im not going that far no way!!! so does anyone know how i could squeeze out and extra 200Mhz ~ 400Mhz from my 3GHz Pentium 4 CPU? on an Asus P4V8x-Mx Mobo, Socket 478 Northwood core. Also my last question is, is it possible to run IDE and SATA hard drives at the same time?