Over Provision - All or none

Klemc · Nov 1, 2023

Hell ho (hello),

there is this thing that is known about SSDs needing to have 10<20% free space to keep full speed and lifespan...
... and sometimes is also told that it's not needed since longtime...
... so we never know what to do !?!

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What do i do with each of those ?:

SSD:
MX500 2to & 1to
BX500 500go
QVO 8to 870 MZ-77 (wtf, 15% of 8to !?)

NVMe:
970 EVO 2to MZ-V7S
KC3000 512go SKC3000S
FURY Renegade 500go SFYRS
Pioneer 2to APS-SE20G
Integral 128go
SN570 500go

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Please !!!!!!!

evernessince · Nov 2, 2023

Modern SSDs do not need you to manually over-provision. Garbage collection has vastly improved as has NAND wear leveling to the point where it's mostly unnecessary.

GerKNG · Nov 2, 2023

you do nothing. you use your SSDs and if you're lucky enough your grandchildren will keep using your SSDs when you're already dust.

Klemc · Nov 2, 2023

So you mean i can put data until the drives are full !?

Like i keep only 10-50go on each !?

That's a verry good new

Thanks, i wanted to be sure.

Shrek · Nov 2, 2023

Recall that if you run below 1/3rd capacity for TLC (1/4 for QLC), the drive can run in SLC mode and have 10 times the life; great for a boot drive that may take a beating from the swap space.

Klemc · Nov 2, 2023

Shrek said:
Recall that if you run below 1/3rd capacity for TLC (1/4 for QLC), the drive can run in SLC mode and have 10 times the life; great for a boot drive that may take a beating from the swap space.

So, that means the 15-20% are true !? In all cases...

... i boot on my 500 drive so it's barely more than 50go

, but others drives are for games !!

Shrek · Nov 2, 2023

That unused space is an asset and not at all wasted; it is extending the life of the SSD.

Klemc · Nov 2, 2023

Shrek said:
That unused space is an asset and not at all wasted; it is extending the life of the SSD.

In all cases ?

So i have 2to free on the 8to QVO, then i should keep it like that, it's awfull, i use only games to play on it !

Shrek · Nov 2, 2023

You would need 6TB free on an 8TB QLC SSD to run in full SLC mode, but as I mentioned above, that is probably justified only for the boot drive.

Solaris17 · Nov 2, 2023

Shrek said:
You would need 6TB free on an 8TB QLC SSD to run in full SLC mode, but as I mentioned above, that is probably justified only for the boot drive.

He is not understanding you switching modes (which BTW adds way to much complexity for such a simple question)

In short no. You DO NOT need to leave "space free" or "make small partitions" for SSDs anymore.

Klemc · Nov 2, 2023

Solaris17 said:
He is not understanding you switching modes (which BTW adds way to much complexity for such a simple question)

In short no. You DO NOT need to leave "space free" or "make small partitions" for SSDs anymore.

Thanks, i was worried,
especially i understood only when he told to keep 6 on 8 :eek:

!!

So on a 8to that only has games files (for runing games) i can go until drive has 10-50go left and it's allright, good.

DR4G00N · Nov 2, 2023

Just use your SSD's like any other drive, longevity is really not a problem. You paid for 8TB so use all 8TB.

I have a 120GB MLC SSD I got almost 10 years ago and I'm still using it right now. It has 32.3TB of writes which works out to filling it to 100% and wiping it over 269 times.

Klemc · Nov 4, 2023

My 1to SSHD Firecuda died, i just moved files to SSDs a bit earlier, thanks guys !!

SPDIF · Nov 4, 2023

You're a very lucky guy!

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Over Provision - All or none

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