Overclocking Phenom 9850 BE with Asus M3N-HT deluxe mb.

[jkatt12]

nothing else, all i meant was it doesnt seem you have alot installed on your desktop yet, good time to re-install windows was all.

 

[Maxamp00]

nothing else, all i meant was it doesnt seem you have alot installed on your desktop yet, good time to re-install windows was all.

Got ya, I am stuck lol

 

[dmcnutt]

voltage?

What voltages are you using to reach 3.1 and 3.2? Are you messing with NB at all? I have the same board and processor. I can get in windows @ 3.1 (15.5 multi) with 1.4v but it freezes up after about 10 minutes OCCT. What temps do you go by? Core temps never break 48c underload. CPU temp hits 56c load. Strange huh? I thought core temps would be more than CPU temps.

 

[jkatt12]

What voltages are you using to reach 3.1 and 3.2? Are you messing with NB at all? I have the same board and processor. I can get in windows @ 3.1 (15.5 multi) with 1.4v but it freezes up after about 10 minutes OCCT. What temps do you go by? Core temps never break 48c underload. CPU temp hits 56c load. Strange huh? I thought core temps would be more than CPU temps.

i can reach 3.0ghz w/ 1.25v. then anything above that i have to go stock volts at 1.30, can get up to 3.2, after that i have to up the volts. im not having to mess with the NB.
my core temps is usually lower than cpu under load (oc).

 

[dmcnutt]

wow! 1.3 and you can hit 3.2. i must be doing something wrong. are you using multi to hit 3.2? will running my ram at 800 instead of 1066 help? what bios are you using? i have 1204. they just came out with 1302. not sure what cpu support it adds didn't see it on the asus website. are you changing any other voltages besides cpu voltage?

 

[jkatt12]

wow! 1.3 and you can hit 3.2. i must be doing something wrong. are you using multi to hit 3.2? will running my ram at 800 instead of 1066 help? what bios are you using? i have 1204. they just came out with 1302. not sure what cpu support it adds didn't see it on the asus website. are you changing any other voltages besides cpu voltage?

i think it partially depends on what type of psu you have, mine is a single rail rated at 60a.
my bios is at 1003. i only changed the cpu voltage, yes using the multi to hit 3.2 keeping my
fsb @ 210. also mine is an OEM 9950 black edition, not sure if there is a difference between retail and oem (pricewise, newegg has the oem @ $289 and the retail @ $179, weird)
check out page 5 screenshot @ 3.3 had to up the volts though but completely stable.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=60347&page=5

 

[dmcnutt]

my power supply also has 60a on 12v rail. I paid 175 for my processer which is retail. maybe there is a difference and that is why OEM costs more. I thought OEM always cost less though? Thanks for your help. wonder if I can downgrade to 1003.

 

[jkatt12]

my power supply also has 60a on 12v rail. I paid 175 for my processer which is retail. maybe there is a difference and that is why OEM costs more. I thought OEM always cost less though? Thanks for your help. wonder if I can downgrade to 1003.

yeah normally oem is less, kinda weird with amd, i got mine for $200 on ebay.

 

[dmcnutt]

so did you get better results clocking your memory at 800? ganged or unganged? right now my core temps are 41c and cpu temp is 48c at full load. core temps is what i want to keep an eye on right? it takes 1.35v to hit 3.0. As long as core temps don't exceed 61c i should be fine, correct? i need 1.45 to get stable at 3.1 but core temps jump to 50c load. cpu temp goes to 58c.

 

[jkatt12]

so did you get better results clocking your memory at 800? ganged or unganged? right now my core temps are 41c and cpu temp is 48c at full load. core temps is what i want to keep an eye on right? it takes 1.35v to hit 3.0. As long as core temps don't exceed 61c i should be fine, correct? i need 1.45 to get stable at 3.1 but core temps jump to 50c load. cpu temp goes to 58c.

i have ddr2 800, been running at 800, 5,5,5,15, 18. and didnt see much of a difference
between ganged and unganged mode but i heard unganged gives you better points for
benchmarking (only about 100+ or so from my 3dmk06 scores) im still waiting on my
ocz reaper hpc ddr2 1066 8gbs. then i'll do more testing, i guess i'll eventually upgrade
the bios to the latest later on this evening when i have free time.

currently have mine downcored to dual core setup @ 1.25v cpu 13x, fsb 210, giving me 2.73ghz - 33c cpu, 29c core.
(running an f*p s*rver) i havnt had much time to actually do any more benching, i do have 3dkmk06 and 3dmark vantage (which is the main one i'll be using)

 

[dmcnutt]

I can pass OCCT cpu test at 3.1ghz @ 1.425v, but if I try running ram test it freezes. I can pass ram test @ 3ghz and I am running it at the same speed when I test at 3.1ghz. Not sure why it won't pass ram but passes cpu at 3.1. I also noticed if I try to run 1066 dual channel it freezes. I am going to swap it out for some 800 memory and see what happens. I tried 3.2 it makes it to the windows screen and freezes everytime. Oh well, I guess I should be content with a 3ghz quad-core I paid $175 dollars for.

 

[jkatt12]

I can pass OCCT cpu test at 3.1ghz @ 1.425v, but if I try running ram test it freezes. I can pass ram test @ 3ghz and I am running it at the same speed when I test at 3.1ghz. Not sure why it won't pass ram but passes cpu at 3.1. I also noticed if I try to run 1066 dual channel it freezes. I am going to swap it out for some 800 memory and see what happens. I tried 3.2 it makes it to the windows screen and freezes everytime. Oh well, I guess I should be content with a 3ghz quad-core I paid $175 dollars for.

if you're going to buy 800 memory, go for the blue g.skill, i can overclock it nicely with the FSB 232 and up. plus its cheap to! im still waiting for my other 4gb of ocz reaper memory, bought it from canada, 2 weeks so far. man..............

 

[dmcnutt]

Thanks, I have some 4x1gb crucial ballistix pc6400 laying around that I will try. It doesn't make sense that the ram will pass at 3ghz but not at 3.1ghz when it is running the same speed. cpu is stable at that speed. I heard this board has issues running 1066 dual channel. I haven't been able to get on ASUS forums for the last couple of days. You should have bought from Newegg you would have had it by now.

 

[jkatt12]

Thanks, I have some 4x1gb crucial ballistix pc6400 laying around that I will try. It doesn't make sense that the ram will pass at 3ghz but not at 3.1ghz when it is running the same speed. cpu is stable at that speed. I heard this board has issues running 1066 dual channel. I haven't been able to get on ASUS forums for the last couple of days. You should have bought from Newegg you would have had it by now.

i guess you tried upping the ram voltages? yes i heard these boards had issues with
ddr2 1066 (showing up as 800 in cpu-z and everest) but the new 1003 bios was suppose
to resolve most of those issues.

yeah i should have bought the ram from newegg but its still $137 w/ 30.00 rebate tho. oh well.

 

[dmcnutt]

I think I might have fried something. I freeze in all my games now. system locks up. Got an IRQ_NOT_LESS_EQUAL and then a PFN_LIST_CORRUPT. temps on cores never got over 52c, but cpu temp got up to 63c. I am going to try to RMA the chip. I swapped out memory and ran everything at stock and its still locks up in games. Its wierd though I can run OCCT and 3dmark06 fine. I am wondering if I damaged my hard drive when I dropped it :-(.

 

[Travolta]

Just curios if any of you got successfull OC on Vista 64 SP1 ? I tryed different settings and BIOS version for M3N-HT - 2.8 Ghz with 9850 is perfect in windows XP, but got BSODs during boot or just after finish booting in Vista 64 ((

I`m using 9850 BE , 8 Gb(4x2048) OCZ 800Mhz , 750W PSU, 8800 GTS XFX. Tryed BIOS versions from 0901 till 1301 - no success in Vista. CPU core voltage from Auto to 1.3625, also try change CPU-NB from auto to x10

Anybody ?

 

[jkatt12]

Just curios if any of you got successfull OC on Vista 64 SP1 ? I tryed different settings and BIOS version for M3N-HT - 2.8 Ghz with 9850 is perfect in windows XP, but got BSODs during boot or just after finish booting in Vista 64 ((

I`m using 9850 BE , 8 Gb(4x2048) OCZ 800Mhz , 750W PSU, 8800 GTS XFX. Tryed BIOS versions from 0901 till 1301 - no success in Vista. CPU core voltage from Auto to 1.3625, also try change CPU-NB from auto to x10

Anybody ?

when i had the 9850 i was able to get 2.9 but not completely stable, vista 64 sp1, had to up the volts a great deal to, my psu is a single 12v rail rated at 60a. couldnt get it to 3ghz.

now that i got the 9950 i have been able to get it up to 3.3 (at 1.4v), im sure it can do 3.4.
i can get it to 3.0 w/ only 1.25v

 

[jkatt12]

I think I might have fried something. I freeze in all my games now. system locks up. Got an IRQ_NOT_LESS_EQUAL and then a PFN_LIST_CORRUPT. temps on cores never got over 52c, but cpu temp got up to 63c. I am going to try to RMA the chip. I swapped out memory and ran everything at stock and its still locks up in games. Its wierd though I can run OCCT and 3dmark06 fine. I am wondering if I damaged my hard drive when I dropped it :-(.

the 9850 is rated @ 60c then its suppose to shut off at that point.

have you run chkdsk /f yet? (i think that sets it up to run check disk at next bootup)

i guess you can try using dh driver cleaner, uninstall your video drivers in windows first, boot into
safe mode, use dh driver cleaner to remove the rest of your video drivers then boot into windows
and re-install an updated or existing vid. driver.

 

[jkatt12]

ok, this sucks, every stick of ddr2 1066 ram i have tried, cpu-z (latest vers. 1.47) and everest shows it to be ddr2 800mhz, cpu-z under the memory tab dram frequency shows correctly
@ 533, under the spd tab it shows pc2-6400 (400mhz) not sure why but does anyone have the same problem?
i have tried ddr2 1066 pc2 8500 - Geil, G.Skill, and now OCZ, all still show up as pc2-6400.
and again, i cant overclock the FSB over 210, windows errors, files missing, etc..
. guess im going to stay with my g.skill pc2-6400.


bios setting is at ddr2 1066, also set this to AUTO and all timings on auto still it shows pc2-6400. anyone out there have any ideas? bios is latest 1301.

 

[dmcnutt]

so i sent back the processor to Newegg, and bought a new one from Frys. reformatted and reinstalled windows and updated to 1301. It will boot into windows and run programs and games at 3.0ghz, but if I try to test with OCCT it wll blue screen everytime. runs fine at stock. I will probably exchange it one more time. I have tried it with all six sticks of ram I have. So its not the ram. I have 15 days to return it. Maybe this is a bad chip that cant overclock. batch number on this one JAAAB AA 0831CPMW. the one i had befor ended with GPMW. It ran fine at 3, but I think I fried the memory controller running it at 3.1 with 1.45 and CPU 1.5v CPU-NB. CPU temps got to 63c, core temps got to 54c. I am guessing when they say max temp of 61c they are referring to CPU not core?
As for 1066 ram, my OCZ does the same thing. it wil run at 1066 but says 6400 in CPU-Z.
Even if I use sli memory setting in bios. jkatt, from your experience, which BIOS is the best for overclocking? if i wanted to revert back to 0901 could I just by flashing it, or will it mess something up? what is your batch number on your cpu? anyone know what is a good batch?

 

[jkatt12]

so i sent back the processor to Newegg, and bought a new one from Frys. reformatted and reinstalled windows and updated to 1301. It will boot into windows and run programs and games at 3.0ghz, but if I try to test with OCCT it wll blue screen everytime. runs fine at stock. I will probably exchange it one more time. I have tried it with all six sticks of ram I have. So its not the ram. I have 15 days to return it. Maybe this is a bad chip that cant overclock. batch number on this one JAAAB AA 0831CPMW. the one i had befor ended with GPMW. It ran fine at 3, but I think I fried the memory controller running it at 3.1 with 1.45 and CPU 1.5v CPU-NB. CPU temps got to 63c, core temps got to 54c. I am guessing when they say max temp of 61c they are referring to CPU not core?
As for 1066 ram, my OCZ does the same thing. it wil run at 1066 but says 6400 in CPU-Z.
Even if I use sli memory setting in bios. jkatt, from your experience, which BIOS is the best for overclocking? if i wanted to revert back to 0901 could I just by flashing it, or will it mess something up? what is your batch number on your cpu? anyone know what is a good batch?

yes, cpu temp is way high dude! i found that 901 was just fine, if you're into overclocking using the FSB which is nice, i know for sure that g.skill blue pc2-6400 overclocks extremely well plus its cheap. im not sure what would be a good batch for these 9950's. but im definitely getting rid of the 8gbs of this ocz reaper stuff since i cant overclock the FSB no more than 210 no matter what settings i use. (voltage, ht link, nb multi, tried it all in the bios) ive spent so much $$$ on this system too. dang. 4 video cards, 2 motherboards, 3 different types of ram, 4 cpu's. no more!!! lol

im giving up on ddr2 1066 unless someone can tell me they have a brand that works with overclocking and shows it to truely be pc2-8500..

ohhhhhhh about the bios, 1301, i saw there were some new settings added, the ht link can
now go above 2, 2.2, 2.4 and 2.6, was not able to play with it but it wont boot with 2.2 setting (probably just need to adjust the nb/ht volts) would be nice to see how 2600ht/5200mts runs.

 

[dmcnutt]

Got my new one. stepping/batch JAAHB AA 0829. looks like the stepping JAAHB AA is a good one from what I have read. Its fairly new too 29th week of 2008. What is that? July? Will get back to you after I have tested it. 3rd time is a charm. I hope. This thing is great. 3.1ghz, 1.375v, 1.3v CPU-NB, OCCT stable, wouldn't pass with anything less than 1.3v on the CPU-NB. I can get into windows at 3.2ghz with 1.4v, but OCCT crashes after 2 minutes with crash code 1. I am afraid to put anymore volts into it because of what I did to my first one. I am sure if I messed around with some of the other voltages like NB, HT, SB, or CPU-NB. How do you upload screenshots? I also have my memory running 1066 dual channel. which it would not do with the first two cpus. the second one I had was garbage JAAAB AA batch wouldnt even do 2.9ghz without blue screening.

 

[jkatt12]

click on post reply, then scroll down to your bottom left you will see 'manage attachments'
it'll pop up another box to browse and upload, has to be under a certain size i believe.

 

[dmcnutt]

how it going jkatt? here are pics of my overclock so far. I can run OCCT for about 20 minutes at 3.2ghz with 1.4v, but then I get a crash code 1. have you had any luck getting past 3.1ghz? have you touched any other voltages? CPU-NB, NB, HT? have you noticed that when you stress your cpu your voltage increases? I have it set to 1.375v but when stressing in goes up to 1.39? do you have that problem with this board? on my other boards voltage drops under load not increases. also what temps do you go by? core temp or cpu temp?

 

[jkatt12]

how it going jkatt? here are pics of my overclock so far. I can run OCCT for about 20 minutes at 3.2ghz with 1.4v, but then I get a crash code 1. have you had any luck getting past 3.1ghz? have you touched any other voltages? CPU-NB, NB, HT? have you noticed that when you stress your cpu your voltage increases? I have it set to 1.375v but when stressing in goes up to 1.39? do you have that problem with this board? on my other boards voltage drops under load not increases. also what temps do you go by? core temp or cpu temp?

going great, i can reach 3.0ghz w/ 1.25v. i have been able to get 3.3 so far while increasing volts to 1.4. im stable around 1.3 (stock) at 3.2 though. i go by cpu temp.
dont have a problem with my volts dropping. seems like i have good chip, still cant
get ddr2 1066 memory to read correctly tho, 1 last shot, going to try corsair dominators
i guess since the asus forums show it reading correctly, kinda weird. (they've suggested
setting sli enabled, and that didnt work either)