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Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by Paladone, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. Paladone

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    Hey guys, I have never attempted to customize my own PC so i am fairly amateur and would like some feedback. Here is what i have been looking at; GPU - Asus Hd7970 Rog Matrix Platinum 1050m/5500m 3gb/2xDVI/4xdp $599

    CPU Intel Core i7 3930k Sandy BRIDGE-E 3.2ghz 12mb Retail Box - No Fan - $589
    - Arctic Cooling Freezer I30 Cpu Cooler $39.00

    SSD - orsair Force 3 120GB 2.5" Ssd Sata3 550/510 $119

    HDD - Seagate Barracuda 3.5" 2TB 64mb 7200rpm $105

    PSU (POWER SUPPLY) - ANTEC HIGH CURRENT PRO 750W 80PLUS GOLD SEMI-MODULAR POWER SUPPLY (0-761345-10600-9) $199

    OPTICAL DRIVE - Lg Ch12ls28 12x BLU-RAY Combo Retail Box $64.00

    MOTHEbn 0-RBOARD - Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 Lga2011 Atx Motherboard $269.00

    MEMORY(RAM) - G.SKILL 32GB KIT (4x8GB) DDR3 RIPJAWS Z C10 1600MHZ (F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL) $209

    Case - Coolermaster Storm Enforcer Gaming Case $105.00

    WIFI-ADAPTER - TP-LINK Wn951n 802.11n 300mbps Wireless Pci Adapter $36.00

    Total: $2333

    I realise that i have not factored in things like a monitor and keyboard.

    Do you think that, for the money, it is good? Am i missing any thing?and, as i said, i know very little about this so i don't know if everything is capatible. Would really appreciate the advice. If you think there are any parts that i could substitute for better, similarly priced/cheap versions, lemme know :) Thanks a tonne.
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    This is a rather solid build for the price. A question though- Do you need 32GB of RAM? And why not go for a case that looks better than the Enforcer, and has a side intake for cooling (Really up to your taste, but I would take the NZXT Phantom 410, which is around the same price or cheaper than your case.) And do you need an LGA 2011 CPU? Really, if you are just going to be gaming on this, than the i7 3930K is overkill.
    But I'll assume you need to render videos and do CPU intensive stuff.
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    Solid pc ;where do you live? everything look so damn expensive.
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    A great server. If you're playing games, cpu and ram is overkill. 16GB RAM at high frequencies and an i7 3770k would be more than enough, and get a better case :D
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    yes, i am purely going to be gaming on it. is the GPU sufficient? and what processor do you think will be sufficient for high end gaming. (EDITED) Also, how many slots does the motherboard that i listed have?
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    Yes the GPU is sufficient and they will happily smother you in free games depending where you buy it. i7 3770k is a fantastic gaming processor, better than the rest, and if you check out reviews for other hardware, most of them use the 3770k as the generic cpu.
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    If Purely gaming only, that is sooo sooo sooo overkill, what resolution will you play at? You dont need to max out everything in the hardware. you will just waste money.

    1. You don't need an Extreme i7 to play most games at full graphics, most games are console ports anyways, although it is a great CPU if you don't mind.

    2. GPU is more than enough, if you plan on gaming on a high resolution, 3D and some.

    3. 32GB of ram isn't needed if you will just play games, and games only. If you are doing constant alt tabbing, multitasking, many background process, and little bit of messing around with ramdisk, then fine

    4. Blu-Ray drive?? for what?

    5. Wifi Adapter? don't you wanna plug the ethernet cable in? surely you will play online and imo you should play direct. But I know guys who does wifi and are doing fine so It's up to you.

    6. If you don't plan on using all 8 Memory slots and at least 2 GPU slots, If I were you I would pic another motherboard. :)
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    Sweet first build. What happen to people starting cheep. I think my first build was all 5 year old used parts

    And for gaming loose the wifi gaming needs a wired connection
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    So, yeah. Basically, try go for an ethernet (Wired) connection if you can (I game over a connection from a room upstairs, which then travels through a series of routers, all the way downstairs, but my ping is still decent, although sometimes it fluctuates), replace your processor with something like the i7 3770K (Which is still overkill, but will fare you through the next gen of games), switch to a mobo using the LGA1155 Socket, and go for a far better case. Hell, the money you'll save from switching to the i7 3770K can get you an NZXT Phantom 820 (Beautiful and well ventilated case.) Your GPU will be fine for a good while, 16GB of RAM is still overkill but not a bad idea, and you might wanna consider liquid cooling. I hear the Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme is good, and so is the H100i, but you can cut back on the cash and use simpler water coolers. Or take air cooling. Your call. Also, quick question to everybody- IS 750W sufficient for the 7970 GHz Edition that he is purchasing? (I hear the thing is a power hog). Should he go for something with a higher wattage?

    Oh yeah, and unless you plan on hooking it up to a TV or something to watch Blu-Ray video, than don't get the Blu-Ray drive.
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    Thanks :)
    I hear water cooling is very high maintenance and can ruin your system, is this true? What about the Phantom 410, is that a good case? Cheers.
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    You only have to do water cooling if you will overclock
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    OP, please tell me it's a typo that your buying a "orsair" ssd and not a knock off brand.

    Or if you want superior performance per noise ratio.

    My temps idle low 20s and max upper 30's while the noise of the fans and system stay the same. Most modern cpu fans use PWM to control the cpu cans, which means higher temps warrants higher speeds, which means louder systems. Using lower rpm fans and a superior cooling method you can achieve much more.
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    Not at all high maintenance, the closed loop coolers require no maintenance that normal coolers wouldnt need (a blast with compressed air every so often to get rid of dust). I have the Phantom 410 Enthusiast in white, pretty awesome case if you ask me, I have no complaints.
    750w psu will be fine, check out my system, a total power hog, and i can run that bitch overclocked on 850w psu.
    Too much RAM, too big of a cpu&mobo. grab a 3770k and a motherboard to go with it, along with a closed loop cooler like the H100i, and i would recommend NZXT 410 or 810 switch case(totally biased here)
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    Apparrantly cheap water cooling won't be as effective as air cooling. If i have water cooling, what would you recommend? and if i have water cooling, and i upgrade to a 1000w PSU, will i be able to Also run case fans? is it possible to have case fans aswell as water cooling?
    thanks
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    You are right, the best close looped water cooler can't compete with the best of the best air coolers at the same dba and custom water loops can be complicated but are worth it if you are able.

    Like most people are saying the 3770K is the best you can get for gaming and 32GB of RAM is overkill as well.

    If you want fast loading times and faster access times with less stuttering in games you will want to install them on the SSD so a larger SSD can help.

    If gaming is your primary focus the best single card GPU OR dual card will suit you better. (depending on resolution)

    A good keyboard and mouse will go a long way for gaming as well.

    ps. It's not usually talked about but your computer chair and desk also is a big factor in gaming it's important to be comfortable.
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    If you're going to spend that much I would get a bigger SSD. As the others have stated, some of your setup is overkill.


    My suggestion:
    Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turb...
    GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD5H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA...
    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DD...
    ASUS HD7970-DC2-3GD5 Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GD...
    SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD500BW 2.5" 500GB SATA III...
    Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Ca...
    COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1 Black S...
    DoubleSight DS-275W Black 27" 6ms (GTG) WQHD Wides...
    RAZER Black Wired BlackWidow Mechanical Gaming Key...
    Corsair Vengeance M60 Black 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel U...
    Corsair Vengeance MM400 CH-9000016-WW Hard Plastic...
    steelseries 61001SS 3.5mm/ USB Connector Circumaur...

    $2400 including monitor, keyboard, mouse and headset.

    You could cut some corners in the motherboard, CPU, GPU, SSD size and still have a PC of comparable performance. Recommended "downgrades" would be a i5-3570K, GA-Z77X-UD3H, GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD HD 7970 and a Samsung 840 250GB; that would save you about $400 and you wouldn't notice the difference unless you run a sintetic benchmark.
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    New specs:

    PART Brand/type Price

    GPU Asus Hd7970 Rog Matrix Platinum 1050m/5500m 3gb/2xDVI/4xdp $599.00

    PSU Antec High Current Pro 1000w 80plus Platinum Modular Power Supply $319.00

    CPU Intel Core i7 3770k Ivy Bridge 3.5ghz 8mb Retail Box – Quad core $339.00

    Memory 32gb - G4.skill 32GB Kit (4X8GB) DDR3 Trident X C10 2400mhz $319.00

    Case Nzxt Phantom 410 White Gaming Case $145.00

    Fans:

    FRONT, 2x120mm or 1 X 140mm (1x120mm included)
    REAR, 1 X 120mm (included)
    SIDE, 1 x 120mm or 1 x 140m
    TOP, 2 X 120/140mm (1 x 140mm included)

    HDD Seagate Barracuda 3.5" 2TB 64mb 7200rpm $105.00

    SSD Orsair Force 3 120GB 2.5" Ssd Sata3 550/510 $119.00

    MOBO Gigabyte GA-X79-UP4 Lga2011 Atx Motherboard $269.00

    Wifi-Adapter TP-LINK Wn951n 802.11n 300mbps Wireless Pci Adapter $36.00

    Optical drive Lg Ch12ls28 12x BLU-RAY Combo Retail Box $64.00


    Cooling CPU Cooling - Arctic Cooling Freezer I30 Cpu Cooler

    Case - Fractal Design Silent Series 140mm Case Fan x1 $64.00

    Noise reduction Lamptron 44-PIECE Noise Reduction Kit $15.00

    OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Oem/64bit $99.00

    Total: Total: $2492

    Thanks for the all the advice guys :) I Realize that a lot of it is overkill, but this is, in theory, my dream PC which i have been saving up to buy :p I made some adjustments and this is what i came up with.

    PS. I have a Razer naga epic, A headset, and keyboard. I do also have a monitor but it is old and crappy so i will plan on upgrading it.

    Cheers!
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    You will need a Socket 1155 mobo for the 3770K.

    It's great to see you get your dream machine! Enjoy :rockout:
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    Thanks man! :) According to the site http://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=611123&CategoryID=302, it does support i7? or is this wrong? And does it support the http://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=609433&CategoryID=282 RAM? if not, which motherboard from http://www.ple.com.au/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryId=302 would you recommend?

    Cheers! :D
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    Scratch the air cooler. Sandy E processors run a little hotter than sandy. Get the Noctua D-14

    Sewriously,gaming the 3770K is a better choice. You will save enough money to almost get another 7970 with a 3770K and I would scratch that asus card for $599. You can find 3G 7970's for $400
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    From this link http://www.ple.com.au/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryId=677 which water cooling system would you recommend. If i buy a water cooling system, what else do i need to buy for it and is it expensive? I want my PC to run cool as possible so would i be capable of running fans in addition to a water coolign system? thanks.
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    It mounts to the CPU, so the motherboard should be irrelevant. For a 2x120mm (240) radiator, ya gotta make sure you case can accept it.

    I, personally, would recommend the H60 or H80, as they can both mount on to the 120mm exhaust of the NZXT Phantom 410.

    EDIT:
    Just had a look at that case, it CAN install the 240mm H100 on the top, so that will be fine.
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