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[PCP]Phenom II hits 5GHz...

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Should've worded it differently and provided links. Sorry. ><

np. Some links would be appreciated. I'd like to know if phenom II boards will be using DDR3....
 

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Its super crazy and awesome. Intels are hitting 5ghz + using DICE and LN2 not unthinkable for AMd to do the same.

Sadly, the clock speed gives no clue to how it will actually perform. I can only hope that a 3 GHz Phenom II can compete with a 3.2 GHz Nahalem. A quad Nahalem can do 8 threads, while a quad Phenom II will do 4. AMD did say that HT can slow down the processing on threads, even if it is doing double the work. We'll have to wait and see for finished product Phenom IIs to make a proper comparison.
 

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np. Some links would be appreciated. I'd like to know if phenom II boards will be using DDR3....

Phenom II's will have both the DDR2 and DDR3 memory controller on the chip, so that means you can use it on current systems. When the new boards come out, you can swap out the board and memory and switch to DDR3. This was planned by AMD. I read that on one of their press releases. I'll see if I can find the page for that. Hopefully, I am not mistaken on the CPU.
 

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OK AMD

GIVE US 790FX DUAL CPU MOTHERBOARD WITH DDR3

8 REAL CORES not 4 REAL and 4 Fake:shadedshu intell........



I will be AMD again:rockout:
 
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man this is some pretty good news. According to AMD they gaurantee over 4 GHz on water, if so it can make intel feel some pressure. However, this is just the beginning. Lets see what happens with Socket AM3 and the 95W Phenom II's releasing in February :)
 

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OK AMD

GIVE US 790FX DUAL CPU MOTHERBOARD WITH DDR3

8 REAL CORES not 4 REAL and 4 Fake:shadedshu intell........



I will be AMD again:rockout:

:D - It's not faking 4 cores. It just has 4 more ALUs than normal. But because it has to do 2 ALUs per core, that's where the potential decrease in performance, instead of increasing, comes into play. HT looks awesome on paper, but it doesn't seem to give much of an advantage in real world processing. Yes, it can (and does) give a boost to performance, but it can become a potential bottleneck.
 

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I was bored and decided to make this. From my initial understanding, this is how HT is. Each one of those lines are threads. Each large box is an individual core. Within the cores are the ALUs. The line coming out of the core is the back side. Of course, this is just a mock up. there are multiple connections to each core.

That's how HT can bottleneck the CPU. Each ALU will execute a thread, but the rate of which it will be sent out might not be optimal. And since it has executed that thread, the CPU has already cached another thread waiting to be executed while the CPU is trying to get rid of the one it has already done but hasn't communicated.

This is all speculation. I am sure they have tweaked the hell out of the tech. But since it's increase of the early CPU's are around 40%, I don't think it has done much. What do you think?
 
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