Phenom II 955 vs. Intels i7

[Binge]

Apparently, they are going to drop the low end i7's, so they don't put up competition for the i5's that will be coming out, so the whole LGA1366 will be more upgradeable point has become null and void.

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#1) You are full of it and that dropping of the low end i7s is complete rumor and even if it is the 920 will still be available for purchase as the W3520. They aren't going to end the Xeon line of i7 chips, no way no how.

#2) The next high end chip intel is producing will use the LGA 1366 socket. That's not to say the chipset will stay the same, but they'll still be using the same socket type.

n-ster, I would have expected someone who enjoys the i7 to be above this back and forth. The more level headed AMD fans are even pointing out redundancy.

 

[Kenshai]

#1) You are full of it and that dropping of the low end i7s is complete rumor and even if it is the 920 will still be available for purchase as the W3520. They aren't going to end the Xeon line of i7 chips, no way no how.

#2) The next high end chip intel is producing will use the LGA 1366 socket. That's not to say the chipset will stay the same, but they'll still be using the same socket type.

n-ster, I would have expected someone who enjoys the i7 to be above this back and forth. The more level headed AMD fans are even pointing out redundancy.

And the fact that the new chip will be expensive compared to the current lineup, leads me to believe for the value, i7 won't be worth it.

Since the performance is supposed to be close, it wouldn't quite make sense to leave both lineup's there, using separate sockets. Would end up being worse off for business I believe

 

[kid41212003]

Triple channel memory, Hyper Threading, support both SLI and CrossFire are just too awesome for me NOT to go Core i7 platform (I don't care if it gains FPS in games or not).

All benchmarks and tests were done on Windows XP or Vista, and these OSes are having problems with Hyper Threading, this is proven in my tests (Posted somewhere in this forum with screenshots).
Expect Core i7 to terminate Phenom II in all fields with Windows 7.
The value of Core i7 is not only in its Performance, but in the technologies it offered like I said above.
And look at Phenom II, it's just plain old K10 tech, what's new? And the fact is, it needs higher clock to beat the Core i7.

For people who loves new techs like me, going Core i7 is the best option available right now.
If all you do is gaming, and you are careless about new things, an dual-core chip pair with a good vid card is good enough.

 

[eidairaman1]

what amazes me is how y'all can afford this stuff when the rest of the world is going to hell in a handbasket, makes me wonder if y'all are actually buying it with your hard earned cash or getting someone else to buy it for you.

 

[n-ster]

And the fact that the new chip will be expensive compared to the current lineup, leads me to believe for the value, i7 won't be worth it.

Since the performance is supposed to be close, it wouldn't quite make sense to leave both lineup's there, using separate sockets. Would end up being worse off for business I believe

Indeed, it seems i5's performance may be too similar to the i7's performance, and price will be too... if that's what you meant... But, IMO, if anything, they would make cheaper alternatives to the i5 later on I think... Either way, the lga 1366 platform will most probably stay, and even if most chips are expensive, not all will be... I mean, I think they will do like the i7 and give at least one cheaper alternative that still performs well, since they had a pretty good success with the i7 920...

I may just be saying BS cause I'm tired but I don't think I am... at least not now

What surprises me is that some people have 3 extreme intel chips, one being the i7 965, another being the i7 975 and another being the lga 775 one I think (I'm wayyyyyy too tired right now)... and what do that do on top of that? run them at like 4~4.2ghz only >.<

 

[Binge]

And the fact that the new chip will be expensive compared to the current lineup, leads me to believe for the value, i7 won't be worth it as much.

Since the performance is supposed to be close, it wouldn't quite make sense to leave both lineup's there, using separate sockets. Would end up being worse off for business I believe

What are you saying? Useing such vague terms only shows a lack of understanding. The next LGA 1366 is supposed to have more cores with multithreading. That's about all I have information on.

I think you might be saying that the performance between the i5 and the i7 is supposed to be close. If you are then you are dead wrong. The thing you are really missing is that the i7 is a workstation/server chip while the i5 is supposed to be mainstream. They aren't going to tell people who are interested in getting a workstation computer and buying their chipset that there are simply no more low end/low power solutions like the 12 variations of the Xeon chips that put off as little heat as 65W. That would be stupid to put it into production and development then scrap the whole project just because something with lower performance is coming with a different socket.

Would you at least think for yourself before hanging on hearsay from Taiwanese motherboard "guys". That's as credible as the source is and frankly it says nothing about the low end Xeons being phased out so I'm not worried at all. They cost the same at provantage.com.

 

[eidairaman1]

1366 is a Namesake for the Multi CPU Markets, just the Current lineup we have is the 1 way system, wouldnt be surprised if a Skulltrail 2 setup appears which is just a overglorified server setup.

 

[Binge]

1366 xeons are the current workstation cpus for high end macs also.

 

[eidairaman1]

so i would assume that Mac is totally X86 now, because they used to be RISC PPC instruction set.

 

[Binge]

so i would assume that Mac is totally X86 now, because they used to be RISC PPC instruction set.

They have been for about 2 years now.

 

[kid41212003]

And Apple does offer 8 Cores version (2 Xeon Nehalem Chips).

 

[n-ster]

Dual-sockets look sooo cool and the practically obligatory 6 sticks of RAM too

 

[Binge]

Yeah and they don't use W3575/W3580 unless they're special ordered.

 

[eidairaman1]

well for me Ill probably be building 2 machines, one now and 1 later, the first will basically be Chicken Patties Machine with a few differences and the other will probably be a Phenom 2 Setup.

 

[Binge]

CP did make a beautiful rig. What about it has you particularly drawn to his setup? EVGA fan, or is it how he mounted his water?

 

[n-ster]

I wish I had money for 2 good setups lol

 

[eidairaman1]

CP did make a beautiful rig. What about it has you particularly drawn to his setup? EVGA fan, or is it how he mounted his water?

The Motherboard, I wont be building both at the same time, i will have the core i7 built then maybe a year later the Phenom 2 as a Spare since i cant do anything with my current machine as of playing around with it (too hot as of Motherboard)

 

[trickson]

LOL AMAZING !
I think that the i7 wins this WAR so lets pull out the Q9650 !!!

Q9650 FTW !!!

 

[n-ster]

LOL AMAZING !
I think that the i7 wins this WAR so lets pull out the Q9650 !!!

Q9650 FTW !!!

Where did that come from

 

[erocker]

Serious thread needs serious discussion. Any more flaming, flame-bait or any other nonsense isn't going to be tolerated. If you have made your point in this thread, go find another thread. This thread should just be closed anyways, but since I can't close it I'll just tell you all to behave or get infractions.

 

[Mort]

Hello everyone,

I must say that it is very interesting what you guys are saying. I have read this topic beacause I am thinking about buying intel i7 (it will be my first Intel CPU ever). But in Poland things look different.
For example prices:
Phenom II 955 - ~160$ (480PLN)
Phenom II 955 - ~174$ (520PLN)
Intel i7 920 - ~384$ (1150PLN)

So it is quite obvious that Intel is twice the price of AMD. Thats a curious detail

But I am still thinking to buy i7 but i7 950. It is a little cheaper - ~330$ (990PLN).
Please tell me is it a good choice?

PS I am sorry to write in such old topic - but in Poland things are going slower

Best Regards,
Marek

 

[rahulyo]

Hello everyone,

I must say that it is very interesting what you guys are saying. I have read this topic beacause I am thinking about buying intel i7 (it will be my first Intel CPU ever). But in Poland things look different.
For example prices:
Phenom II 955 - ~160$ (480PLN)
Phenom II 955 - ~174$ (520PLN)
Intel i7 920 - ~384$ (1150PLN)

So it is quite obvious that Intel is twice the price of AMD. Thats a curious detail

But I am still thinking to buy i7 but i7 950. It is a little cheaper - ~330$ (990PLN).
Please tell me is it a good choice?

PS I am sorry to write in such old topic - but in Poland things are going slower

Best Regards,
Marek

Save money. Go with amd x4 965.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Hello everyone,

I must say that it is very interesting what you guys are saying. I have read this topic beacause I am thinking about buying intel i7 (it will be my first Intel CPU ever). But in Poland things look different.
For example prices:
Phenom II 955 - ~160$ (480PLN)
Phenom II 955 - ~174$ (520PLN)
Intel i7 920 - ~384$ (1150PLN)

So it is quite obvious that Intel is twice the price of AMD. Thats a curious detail

But I am still thinking to buy i7 but i7 950. It is a little cheaper - ~330$ (990PLN).
Please tell me is it a good choice?

PS I am sorry to write in such old topic - but in Poland things are going slower

Best Regards,
Marek

Save money. Go with amd x4 965.

waita bring up a year and a half old thread :shadedshu