Phenom - is it good?

[kid41212003]

That's why I said it doesn't matter if Phenom can run on older socket mobo. I'm not talking about OC headroom here. Don't piss on me.

 

[Kei]

You're very welcome, make sure you're up to it though as the thread is well over 100 pages.

Forgive me all for sounding so 'rude' earlier I just can't stand misinformation because someone made a dumb decision without reading up on something. The product isn't a bad one, the decision to only buy half of it was.

K

 

[Kei]

That's why I said it doesn't matter if Phenom can run on older socket mobo. I'm not talking about OC headroom here. Don't piss on me.

Neither am I...that's no OC'd specs those are stock. Your board is roughly only HALF as fast as the processor you have on it now. If you change boards you will enjoy your system much more.

K

Edit: OC'd specs go much higher than that into the 5000+Mhz range on the HT Link and Northbridge (extremely 100000000000000000000% important to the Phenom performance).

 

[kid41212003]

Run 3Dmark Vantage CPU test on your CPU at 2.4GHz, then I will trust you.

 

[Kei]

You should take a look at the thread too as nearly every benchmark made (including the ones that don't matter) has already been run. Take a peep at the thread and you'll see what your processor can really do if you buy it a new house.

K

 

[kid41212003]

That thread, If i remember right, it has over 50+ pages, which page should I check? =_=.

 

[Kei]

Hahahahahahaha..........it's actually nearly 150 pages now. Just start at the beginning a there is lots of info there. After that you can jump around all you want to

K

 

[Chicken Patty]

That's why I said it doesn't matter if Phenom can run on older socket mobo. I'm not talking about OC headroom here. Don't piss on me.

Maybe i'm not understanding you guys, but how is it an older socket? Its still AM2+.

 

[Kei]

Chicken...he said M2N32 not M3A32 which is AM2+. The board he's talking about is the old school board for AM2 chips...

This
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131011

Not This
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131224

K

 

[kid41212003]

I guess I will pass... that thread, Unless you edited your first post with info you gathered so far, or make a new thread about AM2 vs AM2+ on Phenom.
FYI, My CPU @ 2700 got ~8750 CPU score in 3DMark Vantage. And ~3600 in 3DMark 2006 CPU test.
If you could direct me to a post #, or just a link, that showing moving to AM2+ socket will make different enough to notice then It will more than useful.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Theres no point arguing as some people just don't understand. Anyhow, blueskynis you will enjoy the phenom tremendously. JUst make sure you get a board that is able to use the cpu to its full potential. Like Kei mentioned earlier, any 790fx mobo will do the trick. If you want you can even wait for the new boards with the SB750 to get better and purchase one of those, I could only imagine a phenom on one of those.

 

[Chicken Patty]

I guess I will pass... that thread, Unless you edited your first post with info you gathered so far, or make a new thread about AM2 vs AM2+ on Phenom.
FYI, My CPU @ 2700 got ~8750 CPU score in 3DMark Vantage. And ~3600 in 3DMark 2006 CPU test.
If you could direct me to a post #, or just a link, that showing moving to AM2+ socket will make different enough to notice then It will more than useful.

my cpu did a hair over 11000 in vantage, however I did not take a screen shot of that.(@ 3.1GHz)

In 3dmark 06 it did 4839.(@3.3GHz)

But like I said before, benchmarks are just benchmarks, that don't mean anything.

 

[Kei]

The benchmarks you're using to test against us are only valid if you test using the same system. Using different graphics cards or other hardware will make the test null and void. Choosing another benchmark will be much smarter such as Everest Ultimate (an entire slew of useful benchmarks).

K

 

[kid41212003]

It's at 3.1GHz?
Futuremark isn't there to laugh at.

my system
an AM2 mobo socket + Phenom at 2.7GHz, you 2 own 9850BE, downclock isn't a big problem, and both of you own AM2+ mobo, it fits the bill.

 

[Kei]

kid, can you take a screenshot of cpu-z or something so we know the exact setting you have on your pc right now including memory?

K

 

[Chicken Patty]

It's at 3.1GHz?
Futuremark isn't there to laugh at.

my system
an AM2 mobo socket + Phenom at 2.7GHz, you 2 own 9850BE, downclock isn't a big problem, and both of you own AM2+ mobo, it fits the bill.

Well, run 3dmark at 3.1Ghz and lets see what your cpu can get. Doesn't seem much more for being at 3.1GHz, but its hard to make up that ground.

 

[Chicken Patty]

 

[kid41212003]

CPUz
CPU, Memory, Mainboard.

 

[Chicken Patty]

CPUz
CPU, Memory, Mainboard.

you are running ddr2 800, correct?

Also is that the highest clock you can get stable, or thats just what you are running it at?

 

[kid41212003]

Yes, It's 800, here are my old becnhmarks.
3DMark 2006 and Vantage.
EDIT: I could get it to ~2800, system won't boot after FSB reach 236, even with NB voltage at 1.4v.
System not stable at 2800, "interupted second processor" error.

 

[Viscarious]

Run 3Dmark Vantage CPU test on your CPU at 2.4GHz, then I will trust you.

Oh god. 3Dmark points dont mean shit. If you made a PC for any reason, its for gaming, am I right? What the hell difference does it make if you have 22k 3dmark score and suck ass at all your games.

Gods are made through gaming, not 3Dmarks.

And for all those that just want stats and 3dmarks...IE, you build systems just for benchmarking, then I got a great idea for you. Theres a game built all around stats and wasting time and money. Its called World of Warcraft. So go buy that, shut the hell up and jog on about your shitty choices on buying hardware components.




On another note. I too own a 9850BE Phenom coupled with a 790FX motherboard and couldnt be happier. I dont even use my full system's power. I run my chip on only two cores rather then all four and dropped the speed to 2.3ghz. Its consuming .95v and rocks all my games just fine. I can also multitask like no other without skipping a beat. If you are looking to get a AMD product then look no further, my friend. This will satisfy any sensible person with an outlook on needs rather then uselessness. (I refer to those intel owners running 4ghz 24/7. Why?)

 

[kid41212003]

Lols, did you try to read all the previous posts? We're talking about Phenom on AM2 vs AM2+, and the programs use to judge it are 3DMark CPU tests. No one trying to show E-penis here.

 

[Viscarious]

Do I need to quote you again?

 

[kid41212003]

Yes, you do.

 

[Viscarious]

I'd rather not waste the time. Refer to post number 46 please.

And if you want to get better performance for the benchmark scores then hop on an 790gx board. Proven to help overclock the processor further then any other chipset for Phenoms.