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Please discern between ATI HD56xx and 57xx!

Discussion in 'GPU-Z' started by Naki, Apr 28, 2011.

  1. qubit

    qubit Overclocked quantum bit

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    Look, w1z has explained how he gets the info for GPU-Z. He can't comment on how CPU-Z works, because he doesn't develop it.

    CPU-Z & GPU-Z are written by different developers. Why not find out from the developer of CPU-Z how they get more specific info and then post back in here? If possible, that might help to improve GPU-Z and I know that w1z likes nothing better than good quality, constructive feedback.

    That would be far more useful and constructive than just whining about it on here.
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  2. W1zzard

    W1zzard Administrator Staff Member

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    as i said in the other thread, i have no problems adding a better detection mechanism for card names, but the database with the device id<->name mapping needs to be maintained somehow. great ideas welcome
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    It's all about the drivers.

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    _JP_, what exact card model is the left card? The Series 5700 tag is indeed better than Series 5600/5700. Then again, mine is the Mobility one, your seems the Desktop one?
    EDIT: Hmm, seems it is the 5770 (from your specs).

    You're on WinXP. Maybe the WinXP driver is different from the Vista/Win7 drivers?
    Also, your driver is old.
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  5. Solaris17

    Solaris17 Creator Solaris Utility DVD

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    Could you pull the device ID from the card? I understand that it currently pulls from the driver but as far as iv seen the device ID's are different and should be enough to differentiate. Can you also pull the device ID's from windows? I know you can get them in the hardware properties tab. would something like that work?
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    It is different. But the naming scheme may be the same for all OS.
    Works fine. No need to update.
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    _JP_, the right screenshot seems to be from a very old GPU-Z version.
    Can you make a more recent version shot?
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    wolf Performance Enthusiast

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    Naki, show me the GPU-Z shot of your Mobility card and I will tell you which model it is.

    the reason is Mobility 5600/5700 is that both series use the exact same core (Redwood I believe), just with different core and memory speeds, memory amounts, and GDDR3/DDR3 or GDDR5.

    I was very into this myself as most of last year I was using a laptop with a Mobility 5650.
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    See page 1 of this thread, I have a posting with two picture attachments.
    wolf says thanks.
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    wolf Performance Enthusiast

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    I'm 99% sure that is also a Mobility 5650, albeit it uses GDDR3 where mine used DDR3, but mine was from HP and yours is Acer and that choice is up to them I believe.

    mine was stock clocked exactly the same as yours @ 550/800.

    a 5730 is clocked at 650mhz core, and a 5750 and 5770 both use GDDR5 (which helps a lot, these chips are memory bandwidth starved and benefit a lot from memory overclocking)

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5650.23697.0.html

    you should OC it with MSI Afterburner dude, I had mine stable at 700 core 950 mem and it added a good 20% performance to my gaming, very noticeable at the native res of 1366x768
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    That version is fine. It's the last one that doesn't show the card's clocks all messed up.
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    If the latest version works worse, you should probably report it, might be a bug.
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    I think, AMD changed the Driver naming because some HW vendors used Chip with the pci id for different Products, ie. chips sold for a Mobility HD4570 cards they used for Mobility HD4530.

    And the cards with this chip have at least 3 Different names what is ab bit od. mobility HD45X0/HD51X0/HD54Xv, so cards with the same chip have 3 different names for marketing purpose.

    @W1zzard

    How about using www.pcidatabase.com for detecting card Name? Mine shows Mobility HD4570, as the HP device description shows Mobility HD4530, well the chip is indeed marketed for an mobility HD4570 as far as I understand AMD. So it should display the right thing if the device subvendor doesn't mess up the chip's.

    EDIT: As I say by checking the PCI ID in this thread it gives for the Mobility Radeon HD5650 the Chip description "ATI Mobility Radeon HD 6550M" so it is not right for every PCI ID for chip with different marketing names.

    [​IMG]:twitch:
    So reading the string of the driver seems a bit silly to me.
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