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Preliminary Tests on GeForce GTX 295 Run, Leads Radeon HD 4870 X2

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. buggalugs

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    If the past is anything to go by, Nvidia will charge charge a kings ransom for these. Then in 2 months the new range will come out and have the same performance for 1/3 of the price.

    I'll stick with my 4870.
     
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    Smart move, I really don't see the need for this card unless you have over a 26" monitor and want to max out your games.
     
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    One thing I learned about Nvidia is that they like to "LIE THERE ASSES OFF" when it comes to benchmarks. There CEO should go to jail with all of there B.S he did months back. I am no fanboy at all. This is my first 4870 X2 Ati card ever owned. But they want us to do jump back and forth and spend our $$$ on something with very little improvements.
     
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    inbetween all of the stress .. "preliminary" is spelt incorrectly
     
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    In my opinion

    It is hard to gauge the accuracy of this information as it appears to me to be just marketing. However, what I would watch is how AMD will respond (based on how it performs). As rumors are surfacing that Lil Dragon is ready (by whatever definition that means).

    Another point of interest will be how this product will be priced. It will either be competitive or priced "as usual". This can branch off as meaning 2 things but I'll hold off on that speculation for now.

    Another point of interest is the availability of the 55nm part. I recall news that nv told investors (or whoever) that 55nm was in full production.

    If someone is looking to upgrade I would wait until mid Jan 2009 to see how the dust settles between this gen and next gen GPUs. In particular:
    -see actual performance numbers between cards
    -see how AMD responds (if it's just a price drop, for example, I would wait)
    to see which way one should go.
     
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  6. Castiel

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    This seems pretty sweet. I wanna see what they get in TriSLi on crysis.
     
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    Odd, when I click on the link I get a blank page.
     
  8. kid41212003

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    The link is dead, it re-directed you to the homepage, the smiling face say "this link is no longer avaiable".







    J.k, I'm not sure what it said, but i think it meant that.
     
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    It does when it is the only example.
     
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    What about the other half of my post?
     
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    It's not garbage. Nvidia cards have PhysX, Ati cards don't. It was Ati's call. That's what you will get in actual games with PhysX enabled. The chart states it clearly "PhysX Performance". It should not matter to anyone who doesn't care about PhysX.
     
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    Nah, let them go out at $600. 770s were $550 for a good while, and if these out do them, then noone can complain.

    Unfortunatley those tests are pointless. They don't mention anything about minimum framerates.




    Uh...that's why you wait until something is released, and get the proper reviews, and I mean the PROPER ones, from actual users, not those half-brained 'independent' reviewers.

    You purchased your X2 on good sources right? Or did you...
     
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    Good thing we got the pics before they became unavailable.
     
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    I wonder why they disappeared?
     
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    I think they will hit at $550-$600, then drop down to what ever teh 4870x2 is after about 30days.
    I also dont trust the benchmarks, im sure there is alot of fudging their.
    I do think this card will be the 4870x2 most of the time, but not all, this is based on 2x gtx260s 55nm, not the 280 as one of the ppl above said, so it will be cheaper then 2x 280s but probly about the same as 2x 260s.
     
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    Unavailable due to excess local traffic. It shouldn't matter since it was in Chinese anyway.
     
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    ...that anyone could bother to find.

    Look -- I'm not going to turn this into another useless pissing match about whose cards are better and whose fanboys aren't as virulent. Both sides complain needlessly about the other -- both are guilty of the same things.

    However, if you want to continue researching the forums to do a fanboy-complaint-vs-compliment analysis, feel free.
     
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    Do you call them NVidia games because the GTX260 largely runs them faster? Whichever way you look at it....most of the newest and most popular games run better and most (not all) resolutions on a GTX260 216 as opposed to a HD4870 512MB/1GB and not all those games have "the way it's meant to be played" on the startup screen, what a reviewers supposed to do.....not test on the most popular games in case NVidia wins a few more than ATi so they can therefore be accused of running test with games only optimised for NVidia.....cmon, if the 5 most popular games at the moment are being tested then that is relevant because dont we want to see how these cards perform on games that are being played today, on todays hardware by the majority of players.
     
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    I'd like to think that any game with Nvidia's "meant to be played" badge should be excluded from reviews, unless it's added with a caveat, like "this game has been programmed with Nvidia's help to work better with Nvidia hardware."

    The same goes for any ATI-badged game -- can't think of one right now, though.
     
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    Was?....they still have much more of the market share than ATi so keep cheering for the underdog! :toast:
     
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    I see where you are coming from but personally I cant agree with ya there, if the ten most played games are never tested, then how is the gamer to know how well a card performs with them? The average consumer is not in the slightest bit interested in whether NVida pays "development costs" or supports the game with self marketing, the average consumer wants to know which card performs on which game at the lowest bang for buck. Also, bare in mind that as i said "the way it's meant to be played" does not show on all ten......also ATi does win on some benches on THWIMTBP" games.
     
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    1) Never said the games can't be tested and reviewed -- just that the ones with Nvidia's badge need an added caveat. Perhaps these games could be tested on Nvidia's hardware, alone?

    2) The average consumer isn't the slightest bit interested in video card reviews, either. :laugh: The enthusiast is, however -- and if an enthusiast isn't concerned that some game benchmarks may be slanted towards a certain manufacturer, they should be. ;)
     
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    Out perform my card up to 80%... Haha, doubt it. My card is gonna be king for a long time.
     
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    All arguing aside...I think it will be great if it does indeed outperform the 4870 X2. The closer the compitition between the two companies, the harder they try to best each other, which results in lower priced, higher performing tech for us... :toast:
     
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    Fake!! That GTX295 can't beat the 4870x2 by that much.
     

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