PSU Guide

toecutter · Sep 4, 2013

Frick said:
Several.

made by Seasonic... and rebranded? or just based on their design?

Sea Sonic Electronics Co., Ltd., is a computer power supply manufacturer and retailer, formerly limited to trading as hardware OEM for other companies. They first made power supplies in 1980s for the Apple II and the IBM PC, and are now known for highly efficient designs. Antec, Corsair Memory, XFX and other computer hardware companies sell power supplies which are rebadged or based on Sea Sonic units. All of their PSUs are certified 80 Plus.

In 2002, Sea Sonic established a wholly owned subsidiary in California, USA to sell products in the US retail market and to provide technical support.

Sea Sonic uses electrolytic capacitors from the Japanese Nippon Chemi-Con.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Sonic

Fourstaff · Sep 4, 2013

toecutter said:
made by Seasonic... and rebranded?

Usually Seasonic only makes the platform, the brand will add or take away features to fit price points. Some are direct rebrands though.

cdawall · Sep 4, 2013

Frick said:
Several.

PCP&C (by enhance or superflower), Thermaltakes (by CWT), Enermax, super flower themselves, the list goes on if people knew how to shop they could find all kinds of top notch units for cheap.

Fourstaff · Sep 4, 2013

cdawall said:
PCP&C (by enhance or superflower), Thermaltakes (by CWT), Enermax, super flower themselves, the list goes on if people knew how to shop they could find all kinds of top notch units for cheap.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913-4.html

One of the more comprehensive list out there. There are so many decent power supply manufacturers out there you are completely spoilt for choice.

toecutter · Sep 4, 2013

Fourstaff said:
Usually Seasonic only makes the platform, the brand will add or take away features to fit price points. Some are direct rebrands though.

with a little deeper research one usually finds it is the later, but you still pay a premium.

Corsair monitoring software never seems to leave the Beta stage... Last time I looked Corsair had like 3 Billion in assets, it makes zero sense.

I have a good ole VU meter on an old Cooler Master I am using right now waiting on my Seasonic and it's damn accurate

toecutter · Sep 4, 2013

cdawall said:
PCP&C (by enhance or superflower), Thermaltakes (by CWT), Enermax, super flower themselves, the list goes on if people knew how to shop they could find all kinds of top notch units for cheap.

Enermax are nice I agree but $$$

Superflower are such stripped down Seasonic units it's laughable... and dangerous

Fourstaff · Sep 4, 2013

toecutter said:
Enermax are nice I agree but $$$

Superflower are such stripped down Seasonic units it's laughable... and dangerous

Superflower is a separate company from Seasonic, and they make super good products: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/SuperFlower/SF-1000F14MP/11.html

Don't double post, use edit instead.

toecutter · Sep 4, 2013

Seasonic is a shining example of when an ODM no longer has the OEM's noose around its neck... and a benefit to the end user/consumer when it comes to bang for your buck.

heck who else you know in this field that's been in business since 1975? not many...

Now if we could just buy all our junk from the ODM's I wouldn't even care if it had the Chinese writing directly on the case, no more deception right?

Fourstaff · Sep 4, 2013

toecutter said:
Seasonic is a shining example of when an ODM no longer has the OEM's noose around its neck... and a benefit to the end user/consumer when it comes to bang for your buck.

heck who else you know in this field that's been in business since 1975? not many...

Now if we could just buy all our junk from the ODM's I wouldn't even care if it had the Chinese writing directly on the case, no more deception right?

Why don't you buy FSP's products, or Super Flowers' products or Enermax's products? All of them are both OEMs (other than Enermax) and have their own line of power supplies too.

Who else in this since 1975? Well it doesn't really matter, if a company pops out this year and starts providing quality power supplies along with good warranty+customer service, I will be their customer.

McSteel · Sep 4, 2013

Delta have been at it since 1971... And they can outdo SeaSonic when they really want to.

SeaSonic are irrefutably good, but they're not exactly the end-all-be-all manufacturer.

toecutter · Sep 4, 2013

Fourstaff said:
Why don't you buy FSP's products, or Super Flowers' products

I can read

The direct competitors include the already mentioned Enermax Platimax 750W / Platimax 850W and the Golden King Platinum design (Kingwin LZP-750) from Super Flower. The latter offering isn't just questionable in name, but the missing overcurrent protection and MOV are also a major drawback. As such, we wouldn't put that particular unit in the same category as the Seasonic; Super Flower products in general use cheaper quality.

Seasonic Platinum Series 860W - Probably the Best PSU Ever!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5464/seasonic-platinum-series-860w/6

Fourstaff · Sep 4, 2013

toecutter said:
I can read

Seasonic Platinum Series 860W - Probably the Best PSU Ever!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5464/seasonic-platinum-series-860w/6

No doubt Seasonic makes very good power supplies, but there are many others which makes equally good and good enough ones. :toast:

toecutter · Sep 4, 2013

Fourstaff said:
No doubt Seasonic makes very good power supplies, but there are many others which makes equally good and good enough ones.

missing Over Current Protection on a Platinum series? ...more zero sense

makes one wonder if they paid one lump sum cash for that Plat branding or if it is in installments according to sales figues? that's not "good enough" imo

EDIT; and a little more on integrated MOV's

Current Technology Surge Protection (TVSS/SPD) Par...
Current Technology Surge Protection (TVSS/SPD) Par...

to run a Super Flower with peace of mind you would need a $200+ sine wave UPS

Mussels · Sep 4, 2013

or maybe most people dont live in areas with choice, where i live its corsair or generic shit.

cdawall · Sep 4, 2013

toecutter said:
missing Over Current Protection on a Platinum series? ...more zero sense

makes one wonder if they paid one lump sum cash for that Plat branding or if it is in installments according to sales figues? that's not "good enough" imo

EDIT; and a little more on integrated MOV's

Current Technology Surge Protection (TVSS/SPD) Par...
Current Technology Surge Protection (TVSS/SPD) Par...

to run a Super Flower with peace of mind you would need a $200+ sine wave UPS

So go buy your corsair seasonic rebadge and move on. For me there are more brands to chose from.

You also do not need some rediculous ups to run any of superflowers power supply's they operate well within apec without one. As for ocp guess what its not perfect on corsairs even if it is there so mind your complaints.

Frick · Sep 4, 2013

toecutter said:
I can read

Seasonic Platinum Series 860W - Probably the Best PSU Ever!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5464/seasonic-platinum-series-860w/6

Dethroned according to Jonnyguru.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=352

But seriously, there are litteral shitloads of good PSU's, as have been stated, from various OEMs. Here's one from ATNG.

EDIT: About UPS's: Some areas almost need those because they have sucky power. Here in the Civilized world we do not.

toecutter · Sep 5, 2013

cdawall said:
So go buy your corsair seasonic rebadge and move on.

ahem... read the last page or two of the topic atleast :cool:

I already ordered a Seasonic Platinum 760W for $140 and some change including free shipping. You can't beat that deal with a hammer! unfortunately the Newegg promotion ended Sept 2nd, the day I ordered... so you're out of luck if you want creme dela creme at that kind of price.

it's only $165 plus shipping now though...

Frick said:
Dethroned according to Jonnyguru.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=352

nothing more than a 750 is needed in my sweet spot with draw on two GTX770's and a SB-E platform, I actually could have went lower...

I really wanted that Antec believe me... but they didn't have that model you linked to in 750 watt, it would be on it's way here instead.

About UPS's: Some areas almost need those because they have sucky power. Here in the Civilized world we do not.

if you buy a cheap UPS you're not going to get pure sine wave, it'll be a modified square... no matter what grid you are on UPS serves the first purpose of being a backup in case of power failure. We get those in the civilized world to ya know

alot of PSU manufactures do not recommend you run a modified square wave UPS with their unit... any unit worth a s*** anyway. Other manufacturers just won't bother to specify eg; Super Flower, because of their missing components you better be running a line conditioning device or sine wave UPS which provides that conditioning for you.

cdawall · Sep 5, 2013

I spent $120 on my antec tpq-1200. So like I said keep your seasonic and move one. Better deals exist even on platinum models (rosewill 1200w superflower rebadge for $100 on sale).

Seasonic and corsair are not the best things in existence so no one cares about your seasonic boner.

toecutter · Sep 5, 2013

cdawall said:
I spent $120 on my antec tpq-1200. So like I said keep your seasonic and move one. Better deals exist even on platinum models (rosewill 1200w superflower rebadge for $100 on sale).

Seasonic and corsair are not the best things in existence so no one cares about your seasonic boner.

man I really got your panties in a knot didn't I?

I went fully modular and Platinum series...

cdawall · Sep 5, 2013

toecutter said:
man I really got your panties in a knot didn't I?

I went fully modular and Platinum series...

http://content9.flixster.com/photo/99/47/69/9947699_gal.jpg

Good for you? You managed to purchase something with added resistance, a higher cost and lower capability. You must be immensely proud.

toecutter · Sep 5, 2013

cdawall said:
Good for you? You managed to purchase something with added resistance, a higher cost and lower capability. You must be immensely proud.

umkay

the pros don't agree... mind explaining the tech details?

or do you just want to troll?

cdawall · Sep 5, 2013

toecutter said:
umkay

the pros don't agree... mind explaining the tech details?

or do you just want to troll?

Mind finding me a review that shows you 760w seasonic being capable of outputting more than my TPQ-1200?

or do you want to continue sticking your foot further into your mouth?

Fourstaff · Sep 5, 2013

Ok I think that's enough bickering! toecutter is obviously a big fan of Seasonic (not that its a bad thing), cda obviously can't be bothered with brand as long as they meet an unspecified quality. Now can we move on?

cdawall · Sep 5, 2013

Seventeam FTW :roll:

toecutter · Sep 5, 2013

do I need 1200 watts? absolutely not...

now would you mind showing me a TPQ 750 or 760 capable of Platinum efficiency and full modular cables for $140 and free shipping?

you obviously do not know much about finding the correct power supply for ones rated draw in watts...

no bickering here... Seasonic, Antec and Enermax ARE the be-all-end-all of PSU manufacturers, end of story.

now if Super Flower teehee was made in USA they may merit my attention. If I wanted or even needed a 1200 watt or even an 850 watt power supply with two GTX770's I would have went with Antec's HCP.

System Name	Orange! // ItchyHands
Processor	3570K // 10400F
Motherboard	ASRock z77 Extreme4 // TUF Gaming B460M-Plus
Cooling	Stock // Stock
Memory	2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3 // 2x8Gb 3200 Mhz XPG D41
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 // Asus TUF RTX 2070
Storage	Samsung 840 250Gb // SX8200 480GB
Display(s)	LG 22EA53VQ // Philips 275M QHD
Case	NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange // Tecware Forge M
Power Supply	Corsair CXM500w // CM MWE 600w

System Name	All the cores
Processor	2990WX
Motherboard	Asrock X399M
Cooling	CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s)	(2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage	2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s)	Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case	Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s)	Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

System Name	Orange! // ItchyHands
Processor	3570K // 10400F
Motherboard	ASRock z77 Extreme4 // TUF Gaming B460M-Plus
Cooling	Stock // Stock
Memory	2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3 // 2x8Gb 3200 Mhz XPG D41
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 // Asus TUF RTX 2070
Storage	Samsung 840 250Gb // SX8200 480GB
Display(s)	LG 22EA53VQ // Philips 275M QHD
Case	NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange // Tecware Forge M
Power Supply	Corsair CXM500w // CM MWE 600w

System Name	Orange! // ItchyHands
Processor	3570K // 10400F
Motherboard	ASRock z77 Extreme4 // TUF Gaming B460M-Plus
Cooling	Stock // Stock
Memory	2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3 // 2x8Gb 3200 Mhz XPG D41
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 // Asus TUF RTX 2070
Storage	Samsung 840 250Gb // SX8200 480GB
Display(s)	LG 22EA53VQ // Philips 275M QHD
Case	NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange // Tecware Forge M
Power Supply	Corsair CXM500w // CM MWE 600w

System Name	Orange! // ItchyHands
Processor	3570K // 10400F
Motherboard	ASRock z77 Extreme4 // TUF Gaming B460M-Plus
Cooling	Stock // Stock
Memory	2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3 // 2x8Gb 3200 Mhz XPG D41
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Nitro+ RX 570 // Asus TUF RTX 2070
Storage	Samsung 840 250Gb // SX8200 480GB
Display(s)	LG 22EA53VQ // Philips 275M QHD
Case	NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange // Tecware Forge M
Power Supply	Corsair CXM500w // CM MWE 600w

System Name	Chaos
Processor	Intel Core i5 4590K @ 4.0 GHz
Motherboard	MSI Z97 MPower MAX AC
Cooling	Arctic Cooling Freezer i30 + MX4
Memory	4x4 GB Kingston HyperX Beast 2400 GT/s CL11
Video Card(s)	Palit GTX 1070 Dual @ stock
Storage	256GB Samsung 840 Pro SSD + 1 TB WD Green (Idle timer off) + 320 GB WD Blue
Display(s)	Dell U2515H
Case	Fractal Design Define R3
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Corsair HX750 Platinum
Mouse	CM Storm Recon
Keyboard	CM Storm Quickfire Pro (MX Red)

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

System Name	Black MC in Tokyo
Processor	Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard	Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling	Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory	2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s)	XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage	Kingston A400 240GB \| WD Black SN750 2TB \|WD Blue 1TB x 2 \| Toshiba P300 2TB \| Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s)	Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case	Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s)	Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply	Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse	Logitech G602
Keyboard	Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
VR HMD	Acer Mixed Reality Headset
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	Rimworld 4K ready!

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