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Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by panchoman, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    infractions and deleted posts will continue for anyone childish enough to continue this pointless arguing.
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    Like Seasonic? Oh yes we do like Seasonic a lot. Would we recommend solely Seasonic products? No thanks, a lot of power supplies meet the minimum requirements of supplying clean power to our rig, and in case of PSU's failure will not take the entire rig down. Money is usually better spent elsewhere after you have met the minimum, getting any better does not bring much benefits, if at all. Unless of course if you are gunning for the overclocking record or other such reasons, but most of us here are not.

    If you think you are better served on other websites, feel free to participate in their forums. As a whole I believe the TPU community is one which is almost purely focused on price/perf, with the occasional power overclocker who wants the best. That means sacrificing a lot of rather useless stuff like Platinum labelled power supplies, 2133Mhz ram, and LGA2011.

    Additionally, we do not like vocal fanboys, be it Intel, AMD, or Seasonic. We tolerate them, but if they persist we will show them the door.
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    thank you... I'll show myself out...

    nice place you got here fellas, real warm and welcome.

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    Norton WCG-TPU Team Captain

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    Thank you....

    On topic... I have quite an assortment of PSU's in my cruncher fleet and nearly all of them are quality units and have run trouble free.

    Corsair- HX-850, CX-500, TX-550M, TX-850, AX-1200
    Seasonic- X750 Gold, M12II 750
    Antec- HCG-620
    Rosewill- RV2-700 (POS but it still runs :rolleyes:)
    Silverstone- 600w Strider (retired- unknown issue after 4 yrs of trouble free operation)

    90% of my rigs run 24/7 at full load so reliability is the most important factor so I check reviews, buyer feedback, etc.. price is my second concern. If I need one I try to balance the best deal available at the time with the best psu in my price range.

    Case in point- just got the M12II for $99 w/$20 discount, free shipping, and a $10 MIR (i.e. $69 :rockout:)... If I could have found a better deal on a good unit from another brand then I wouldn't have purchased this one.

    My favorites? ATM I would say the AX-1200 and the X750 both run cool/barely get warm when running at full load. Worst? The Rosewill (runs hot/don't trust it) and the TX-850 (runs hot)

    My $0.02 :eek:
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  5. cdawall where the hell are my stars

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    No this is a thread labeled PSU guide so do tell me, what on Earth that has to do with your insane love for a Seasonic 760w Platinum unit and how it is better than all other powersupplies?
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    Frick Fishfaced Nincompoop

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    It feels like we're talking about different things. Yes, that Seasonic may very well be the best (as in, the best performer) 750ishW unit out there. But it feels like you won't accept any other PSU, or am I imagining things? Seasonic is good, that cannot be argued, but to say they are the best, PERIOD, is ... just wrong.

    And how can Antec have a premium for the name when they are the ones who designed it, and if it truly is good and if the OEM has no consumer PSU's with their own name on them? It makes no sense. If anything the Seasonic brand commands a premium, at least where I live.

    And behind the times.. Right. Anyway are we shills because we don't herald a certain brand as the One True Brand? Isn't that ... the opposite of being shills?

    EDIT: Did Mussels just give himself an infraction for insulting toecutter? :laugh:
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    bingo! and I for one won't get mad at you for getting such a good deal... I just discovered Seasonic myself, I haven't purchased a PSU since 2004, I think they are as cool as sliced bread... I usually run laptops since my last build.

    yep, I'm not interested in a 1200w
    did I say that? please requote me... I named 3 which my decision of being high quality enough to entrust into my new couple thousand $$ build.

    nah it's kind of a reverse shillism :D hard to explain... a shill can have many roles.

    I'm sure I made a wise investment ;) I been outta the loop for awhile too...
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    Frick Fishfaced Nincompoop

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    So. You just discovered Seasonic, has not purchased a PSU since 2004, and you consider us to be behind the times? Good grief. GOOD GOD.

    And why are you talking PSU's at all when you're clearly not interested in them? You are interested in YOUR PSU, which is proper, but to just dismiss anything not by those three companies and not 750W is stupid, in a thread about PSUs. Not just any PSU, but all of them. And you did call CDawalls PSU a dinosaur, then you said a modern 750W unit can do more than a 5 year old 1200W unit. Which is just wrong.

    And your love of Delta, and therefore Antec? You know how many PSU's Delta makes, and a lot of them are stuff you probably would not touch with a ten foor pole? And how the same goes for Seasonic? Brand loyalty can be good, but is often dumb.
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    no brand loyalties here... specially after what Asus done to me after all these years :D

    I do like Platinum power supplies though because that is the efficiency generation we are into now.

    I am glad I was able to point out all of the misreadings (or non reading) of posts on the last few pages. It is very easy for veterans to draw conclusions on people when information is incomplete.

    It is very east to understand how if one does not actually read post or only sees what they want to see in them, then automatic assumptions can be made which are misconstrued.
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    Frick Fishfaced Nincompoop

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    If you like to think thats fair enough

    How about you read the whole thread or any of the others before you say anything
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    All brands have failure rates as do ALL components, corsair are not bad :D

    Ps exactly who else have you ever heard of making a montage of their own (insert brand name)complaint/moaning threads into one big compendium thread, its just odd and makes your avatar name look like some shady in joke with shil in it, have I just outed you ?.:p
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    I never said they where bad or anything like it

    As for the name its a russian name so off course it may sound strange to some

    But so does the old name for Panasonic which is Matsushita

    Matsu-shita
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    Frick Fishfaced Nincompoop

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    I did read that thread (the first pages anyway), and it boiled down to "it's cheap and therefore not suitable for gaming", and people said it was good info. You had a bunch of pictures saying "look how cheap it is", and well ... isn't that the point? I'm willing to bet money that most CX430's can do 100% load for three years (the warranty period). If I spent $2000 on a computer I would get a good PSU, but cheap (to an extent) PSU's are just as capable (within their specifications) as expensive ones.

    Yes, you should buy as good PSU's as your budget allows, but if it's a tight budget Corsair CX is a good choice. Depending on the price in your location.

    I apologize for sounding harsh in that post.
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    Hi,

    I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, but as many times as I ended via search or links of other boards in this thread I am hoping I'm in the right place:

    I search for the actual Watt idle details of the aktual LGA 2011 boards (with the i7-4930K CPU, deactivated OC for certain work projects) and also for the idle details of GPU's so I can calculate the idle for my planed system and then find out which PSUs fullfill that need with at least 85% efficiancy.

    I've read somewhere each 2GB RAM stick needs 2 Watt in idle, each 4GB RAM stick 3 Watt. What I can't find are the needed Watt for 8GB RAMs (I have 8 of them)

    My problem is, I search for a PSU with excellent low level efficiency for certain low energy needed work projects, but other projects need tons of extra cards and speed (firewire, 2nd GPU non-SLI, RAID,OC) => I'd like to not oversee 5V ability ... too and calculate without haste

    Is there anybody here who knows about such things ot could point me to the correct thread / list / entry....?

    I tried to read through the complete thread, but I've to confess to not understand all entries or found it difficult to not skip a post if it seemed a bit .... heated, I hope that is acceptable to do so. Thank you for reading this
  17. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    buy a wall meter and test it yourself. every system will end up different.
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    Hi
    I am planing the system, I try to find some RL based numbers

    I found a kind of chart at ocaholic = e.g. P9X79-E WS
    with 3930K, GTX 580 (= 32Watt idle), 1x 8GB RAM, 1x HDD, Dark Power PRO
    => 155 Watt idle. 17 X79 boards compared, including P9X79 Pro.
    The 17 boards got a range 131Watt till 162 Watt for idle, so the boards result are not even outstanding

    at Hardware.info, P9X79-V Pro
    with 4960x, HD 7750, 16GB RAM, 1x 128GB SSD
    => 68,4 Watt idle. No explanation about monitor on or not... or why it is so much deeper in consumption found

    Hence one of the reasons my try to find out more input, even if I aim for great at 10% PSUs, the 2 numbers differ quite a lot.
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    So true some motherboards hog much more power than some.. I remember my Maxinus mobo x38 used to idle at 200w were and other 775 mobo would idle around 80w.

    Best ways is to get some thing like that ( KIll A Watt ) or even some thing like what Zalman do which takes the usage just before the PSU.
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    Hey u have so much patience to type all these stuff...anyway thank you for posting
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    I haven't read all the posts, just the first ones and last ones. I see that Super Flower PSUs are on red (do not buy). Does that still applies? Aren't they pretty good now?
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    SF PSUs are among the best for some years now.
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    Hi
    PSU Corsair RM1000w Is it good for
    -Maximus VI Extream 1150LGA
    -Intel 4770k + Corsair h100i
    -Gskill TridentX 8GB 4GBx2 2666MHz DDR3
    -VGA Asus GTX780 OC DDR5 3G
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    Should be no problem. Modern components don't require much power. You could probably get by on 750 watt PSU if you wanted. Probably even a 600 watt.

    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-780/specifications
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    Which is the best-buy quiet psu around 1000W?
    R9 290 SLI ( 700W) default
    i7
    thanks

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