Q6600 and need MOBO Advise

[DOM]

Asus P5WDH fullmod by Zilla, LN2 cooling, Ln2 container by OC-Labs, Corsair XMS2 8500, Gigabyte 7600GT, Silverstone Zeus 750W

Well if he gets it moded and has the cooling he can get a Good OC

 

[Demos_sav]

He said FSB LIMITATION on 975 based chipsets. He didn't mention anything about cooling. Also where it sais fully modded, the only mods available for that board is vdimm for memory and vdrop to fix some issues with the voltage shown (it shows lower than real).

 

[The Nemesis]

I also said "most" 975X boards. There are plenty of people that have hit 340-360FSB with Q6700's I think. But for someone looking to run a 9 multiplier on the Asus P5W DH with a Q6600 for overclocking, your gonna top out @ 350FSB if ur lucky. I think I'll try my Q6600 on my P5W DH just to be sure.

 

[MarcusTaz]

Please do because if that is the case this MOBO is getting RMAed for some unknown failure reason....

 

[MarcusTaz]

I also said "most" 975X boards. There are plenty of people that have hit 340-360FSB with Q6700's I think. But for someone looking to run a 9 multiplier on the Asus P5W DH with a Q6600 for overclocking, your gonna top out @ 350FSB if ur lucky. I think I'll try my Q6600 on my P5W DH just to be sure.

Well, were waiting... Common Nemesis get that Q6600 in that thing and let me know if my new mobo is an RMA or not!!

 

[The Nemesis]

Well, were waiting... Common Nemesis get that Q6600 in that thing and let me know if my new mobo is an RMA or not!!

I will, it was running prime & a few benches

 

[MarcusTaz]

Rock on bro and thank for going the extra mile here!!

 

[MarcusTaz]

Surely your tests are now complete???

 

[The Nemesis]

I've been using bios 1602 for some time now. Quad core support was added with the 1506 so I just stuck with 1602 since it's been good for me. 367FSB would not boot no matter what voltages I used. 367FSB was my 12hour orthos stable results on the DFI P965-S. I ran OCCT, 3DMark06, and Pi @ 356FSB & they all passed. I'm gonna run prime/orthos @356FSB for 8 hours or so. I'll post a prime screen shot tomorrow for you.

****356FSB has Failed Prime Thus Far****

 

[MarcusTaz]

Ok man thanks a ton!!! OK So with this Mobo you are telling me my max OC will only be approx 3.2 per core? If not tell me what it is and tell me what I can expect with a P35 chipset....

Again thanks for going the extra mile here, very much aprreciated!! Techpowerup peps rock!

 

[MarcusTaz]

I got everything today and installed, w00t. The bios is 1901 installed so why you are runnning such and older verion Nemesis? I have not done any Ocing as I am still building this pc up.. Will let you all know once I learn how to OC Intel rigs... All Chinese to me, no pun intended..

 

[The Nemesis]

I got everything today and installed, w00t. The bios is 1901 installed so why you are runnning such and older verion Nemesis? I have not done any Ocing as I am still building this pc up.. Will let you all know once I learn how to OC Intel rigs... All Chinese to me, no pun intended..

I bought my first P5W DH August of last year. I picked up my current one back in October because the newer revisions were shipping with the newer 975X north bridge which was the same that was found on the 975BX2. Most of my overclock success was with the 1101 & 1305 bios. I can't remember why I flashed to 1602. The system runs the E6600 with eist & c1e enabled, 367FSB, all voltages set to auto. It also ran 400 x 9 for 3.6ghz. I guess I never flashed the bios because if it ain't broke don't fix it

 

[MarcusTaz]

I bought my first P5W DH August of last year. I picked up my current one back in October because the newer revisions were shipping with the newer 975X north bridge which was the same that was found on the 975BX2. Most of my overclock success was with the 1101 & 1305 bios. I can't remember why I flashed to 1602. The system runs the E6600 with eist & c1e enabled, 367FSB, all voltages set to auto. It also ran 400 x 9 for 3.6ghz. I guess I never flashed the bios because if it ain't broke don't fix it

OK is that newer NB 975BX2 not as good??

Also I understand the "if it aint broke don't ifx it" but if we are trying to achieve a higher OC stable clock then a newer bios could do the trick, unless you are satisfied with the current clock....

If you have some OC settings can you please list them here? I have 4 gig of Crucial ballistic PC 800 memory. Timings are:

400MHZ 4.4.4.12 24 2T & 500mhz 5.5.5.15 30 2T

 

[The Nemesis]

The 975BX2 was of course a respin of the original 975BX. It was suppose to be better suited for intel core 2 duo's and quad core's.

I was unsuccessful @ getting 356FSB prime/orthos stable. I kinda figured it would be a challenge since the board would not get into windows @ 358FSB. This tells me the 356FSB is already right on the edge of its max. Here are the bios settings that I used. These are the same settings used on three different E6600's. They all proved 12 hours orthos/prime stable, the only difference between each chip was the vcore.

ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU  : E6600
DDR2 : G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
Bios : 1105
VGA  : 2 eVGA 7900GT's SLI modified drivers
HDD  : Two WD 320GB Serial ata raid
PSU  : OCZ GameXStream 700w
OS   : WinXp Pro SP2
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3306Mhz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 367MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :735Mhz

Performance Mode :Auto
PCI Express Frequency : 100Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode   : 33.33Mhz 

Memory Voltage    : 2.1v
CPU Vcore Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination V : Auto
MCH Chipset V : Auto
ICH Chipset V : Auto
--------------------------------------------------------

CPU Configuration

Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Enabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency : 4
DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 4

Hyper Path 3 : Disabled 
DRAM Throttling : Disabled

ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU  : E6600
DDR2 : G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
Bios : 1105
VGA  : 2 eVGA 7900GT's SLI modified drivers
HDD  : Two WD 320GB Serial ata raid
PSU  : OCZ GameXStream 700w
OS   : WinXp Pro SP2
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3605Mhz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 400MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :800Mhz

Performance Mode :Auto
PCI Express Frequency : 100Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode   : 33.33Mhz 

Memory Voltage    : 2.20v
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.4875v
FSB Termination V : 1.30v
MCH Chipset V : 1.60V
ICH Chipset V : Auto
--------------------------------------------------------

CPU Configuration

Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Enabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency : 4
DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 4

Hyper Path 3 : Disabled 
DRAM Throttling : Disabled

 

[MarcusTaz]

Cool man thanks... Like I said my mobo came with 1901 bios and I will leave it here for a bit. There are newer bios out there but not updating till I read more. ATM I have a FSB of 370x9 stable bringing me to 3.33GHZ with 1.4 volts core. 2.2 and my memory speed is 722.6 MHZ 4.4.4.12 timings. I want to go higher but I again have to find out what a high side safe voltage is. I know I am already over the 1.36? max voltage Intels recommends... Anyway will post bios settings tomorrow...

Thanks again...

 

[MarcusTaz]

OK these are my settings:


ASUS P5WDH Dlx Overclock Settings

CPU : Q6600
DDR2 : Crucial Ballistic 4GB (4 x 1GB)
Bios : 2004
VGA : 1 ATI HD 2900XT 1GB DDR4
HDD : WD Raptor 150gb 16mb
PSU : Antec 650w Tri Rail
OS : Win Vista X86
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3406Mhz

BIOS SETTINGS

JumperFree Configuration

AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL

CPU Frequency : 378MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :758Mhz (1:1 according to CPUZ)

Performance Mode :Turbo
PCI Express Frequency : 100Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz

Memory Voltage : 2.2v
CPU Vcore Voltage : 1.475
FSB Termination V : 1.4
MCH Chipset V : 1.65
ICH Chipset V : 1.2
--------------------------------------------------------

CPU Configuration

Microcode Update : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------

Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)

Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency : 4
DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 4

Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled


Everthing stable, OCCT 30 min test passed. Orthos passed running 2 instances with 1 set to affinity 3/4 core.


I am very happy to say the least with this setup and it has yielded me 13k+ in 3DMark06. I am however a junky when it comes to pushing the most out of my components, even though I am not an experianced overclocker as others. I am toying with the idea of getting a Asus P5K P35 mobo and returning this one. Question is am I going to see that much of a difference from 3.4GHz to 3.6GHz? Something tells me no. Feel free to chime in and thanks again Nemesis!

Nemesis you have to try the 2004 bios and see if you can OC a bit more stable. I think you will be pleased with the results.


Oh one other thing to take into account. DO NOT use the Asus Windows Update utility to update your bios, this will kill your mobo!!! I can say I have never had this problem before with my Asus AMD platforms and I have been with AMD for a long time. Not believing what I read over at extreme forums (I said to myself, what noobs they are not doing it right) I tried to flash my mobo with the Asus Windows Utility an guess what, killed my mobo, half way through the flash it gave me an error and then no matter how many times I tried to flash it would tell me unrecognised mobo not and Asus board. On restart I got a black screen, it wiped the Eprom clean and not even the built in AMI Ctrl+Home trick worked, nothing!!! I had to get another eprom and hotflash the other one. Ok so what does this all mean? DO NOT use the Asus Windows Update Utility!!! Use AFUDOS only from a floppy... If you do not have a floppy drive, get a USB one. You can use a USB stick, but even that is not recommended.