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  1. jonathan1107

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    Quick question:

    I need to buy new HDMI cables for my Xbox and for my PC... Which version of the HDMI cables should I buy?

    I hear there's 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4...

    Appearently, 1.4 is considered "high speed HDMI cables" to work with 3D features of different monitors/tvs....

    Should I buy the 1.4 for the speed? or it ain't compatible with the xbox 360 and my pc???
     
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    1.4 will work with any device, you just won't be able to use the newer features of 1.4 if the device doesn't support it such as 3d etc.
     
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    So.... I should buy the 1.4 version of the cables? Because, that way, when I do upgrade my HDTV to a 3d HDTV or if in the future consoles support 3d thru those cables... I will already have em
     
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    Yea, well there's no reason not to buy them as they are no more expensive imo unless you can't get hold of them as easily.

    FYI Xbox 360 has HDMI 1.2 iirc
     
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    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    the cables themselves havent changed between the specs, its about the devices on either end.


    over short distances (<2 meters) it wont matter. (for long distances, its the quality of the cable that matters - not the standards they meet)
     
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    why is the quality of the cable important more than standards met ??? I'm planning on having a 25 ft HDMI cable pass thru my office wall to reach my HDTV... to play stuff from my PC on the HDTV and sometimes to play my console (which is in the office) on the Loundge HDTV...
     
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    Quality is important in terms of shielding, durability, and purity of the copper in the wire, and even the way the wire is twisted, etc.

    Oxygen free copper will cause the lowest loss of signal strength over the longest period of time. Good shielding will ensure the least signal corruption from EMF the cable may encounter. Durable construction will protect the cable if it is handled a lot or stepped on has to be fished through a conduit or lashed down with cable ties.

    Things that don't matter are fancy looking cable covers as in the Monster brand line of overly thick and wooly braid that does nothing but wear out the connector on your equipment from the extra weight.

    I have a 10 meter flat HDMI cable I bought based entirely on price that held up better than a 2 meter Monster cable.
     
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    for 25ft you will want a bigger gauge.

    http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10250&cs_id=1025001&p_id=6103&seq=1&format=2
     
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    Thanks for the tips guys, english not being my first language... what do you mean by "for 25ft you will want a bigger gauge" ??
     
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    Gauge mean the thickness of the metal wire.
     
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    Larger gauge means the wires are thicker. 22AWG = "22 gauge wire." However, AWG is a reverse scale where a lower number means thicker, heavier wires, so a 22AWG wire is thicker than a 28AWG. It's similar to shotguns, where a 12 gauge shotgun has much more powerful ammunition than a 20 gauge shotgun.
     
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    The only reason you would need something like that is if you are going in wall for the Cat 2 aspect of it. Otherwise, fire marshalls will not be happy with you (not that they'll know) because you have to have cat 2 or cat 3 cables for in-wall wiring.

    If not in wall even for 25 feet just get a standard one. I've got oodles of these things running every which way, I even had a fifty footer connecting my computer to tv and paid less than that cable's price for it.

    Digital is digital. It makes it or it doesn't. For 50+ distances you run the risk of it not making it through the cable, but that's what signal boosters are for :)
     
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    There's no such thing as a HDMI 1.1 or 1.2 or 1.3 or 1.4 cable. They are all identical. It's just marketing fluff. The signalling chips inside the devices at either end are definitely different depending on the version, but any old HDMI cable will work just fine regardless of the version number.

    As far as the quality of construction of the cables goes, there are differences. My advice would be to buy the cheapest cable you can find in the length you need. If it works without issue--and it likely will unless you have a lot of RF interference nearby from flourescent light ballasts or something that puts out a lot of RF--then there is no need to buy a more expensive cable. If you get artifacts from a cheap cable, trash it and spend the money on a cable that has better shielding.
     
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    he wanted HDMI 1.4a and the cable has a CL2 rating for in-wall installation and meets fire codes.
     
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    since people are giving you technical answers:


    even tho its a digital signal, you still get signal loss over longer cables. this results in you getting no image at all, or a seriously distorted one.

    if you're buying a longer cable, dont buy some cheap shitty chinese thing from ebay. buy it from a store you can return it if it doesnt work, because sometimes they only test them to 720p at those longer distances (i have one such cable here, a 15M one)
     
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    Wow... Ok all that info is confusing... some of U say "buy cheap" and some of U say "buy better quality"...

    Let's make my purpose clearer: I intend to have an HDMI cable go from my office to the loundge (possibly thru the wall... altho I could save some money and buy a longer one which will have to go around the bottom of the walls with something to hide it...)

    This cable will serve as an extension to allow me to play my xbox in the loundge (even tho it's in the office) or switch the HDMI cable to my PC to play HI-Def blu rays from my pc to my loundge HDTV)...

    So Yes, I'm looking for something that will not dissapoint and give me a clear 1080p at the other end in the loundge... I don't think I'll need 25ft if I go thru the wall... 10 feet would be plenty or maybe 15ft to be safe...)
     
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    http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10250&cs_id=1025004&p_id=6077&seq=1&format=2
     
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    if its short, go cheap.

    if its long, dont go cheap.


    that help?
     
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    you can also install a wall plate on each side of the wall instead of having a gaping hole with a cable running through it.

     
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    there is a difference

    i can testify from experience that there is a difference in HDMI cables.

    there are all the obvious differences of length, shielding, guage, material, build process, etc...

    to sum up, if you have a low end system or low end 'video demand' (net surfing or watching youtube) then a cheap cable will work.

    a higher end system and high video demand (1080p gaming on 42in LCD with over 100fps) then high end cable required.

    i run a 590GTX on a 47in LCD. Tried multiple budget/mid range cables... all with varied results.
    video noise, color fade, pixelation, ... Some cable flat out died after a few weeks!

    Only Monster cable resolved all my issues... months of use still running strong!

    it is expensive... but it is the best. :rockout:
    ONLY recommended for high end systems or high demand situations.
     
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    Thx guys, I'm looking forward to making this installation in my house... the only problem being, I'm a complete noob at electricity stuff and wiring or even getting wires thru walls...

    I think I'd like it even better with HDMI wall plates, because I could buy multiple HDMI cables to make my life easier... Won't have to constantly unplug the blu ray's HDMI cable to put it in the XBOX 360...

    I'm going to consider a high end HDMI cable...
     
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    if you're going long distance and want wall plates, you can get HDMI -> cat 6 ethernet adaptors. they extend the range pretty good too.
     
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    Thank you all for your help and tips. I'm gonna make some calls and see what I can do.

    Thx again
     
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    the connections are bridged and the plate looks nicer on the wall. no electrical work.
     

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