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Radeon R9 290 (non-X) Launch Pushed Back a Week

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. welly31 New Member

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    Ok im sorry but that is the most hilarious mispelling of prejudice ive ever seen. Pre digest...whats that? when your mom chews up your food for you before you eat it? hahaha
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    Please tell me you're kidding
    I hope you do realize amd designed hawaii to be as cost effective as possible while performing better than titan right? Titan is 550mm2+ while hawaii is a good 100mm2 smaller in size, amd couldve easily made a bigger chip and clock it lower to get same performance with less power use but then price goes up with that so trust me nvidia selling gtx780 at 500$ is not something they are happy with, hence why they will release gtx780ti which will probably be clocked much higher for better performance.
    As for the factory clocked 780s u keep talking about beating 290x well yaaa i dont think so, 290x beats titan by a small margin and the 780 by atleast 10% so 780 would have to be clocked over a ghz to even start getting close, and when u do that the efficiency arguement about nvidia goes down the drain cuz 800mhz on 28nm seems to be a sweet spot for efficiency but when u go close to ghz poweruse scales higher

    In other words your arguement is a bit inaccurate as amd can affort to sell 290x at 500$ while making way more profit than nvidia selling 780 at the same price. So to say amd is screwed or surprised is an overstatement
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  3. Eroticus

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    Stop the fight ~.~

    AMD was always best 4 price ...

    World record on performance belongs now to AMD and not to 4-WAY SLI of Titan~.~

    4000$ vs 2196$

    But we are still waiting to Maxwell chips from nvidia .. i hope price will be fixed and not like always.


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    I wish one of these manufacturer's for AMD would make a card like half-cut nvidia GPUs. Asus's cute little 670 and 760 are comfortable enough to fit in a mITX no problem. It would certainly appeal to more smaller form-factor enthusiasts.

    On-topic, their R9 290 better be competitive with the 780, that's all I gotta say. The price better be right or else demand won't be as high as AMD hopes for them to sell it at a premium when it launches.
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    To keep it simple I understand and agree to most all of what you’re saying...

    My only thing to add is that these are geldings that didn't make the grade as Tesla products. So in that vein, can we say Nvidia doesn't exactly need to sell as normal, because they get 3x for one chip from the professional market. While if there's 30% geldings they can off-load those for a substantial discount. I see that as the saving grace for these Nvidia discrete gaming desktop market has them in. Also, why I don't believe we would see a full-GK110, for as you state the cost those they need to keep in the professional, unless even full-fledged GK110 are sorted by power usage and some don't make the grade for professional products.

    AMD has Hawaii as a standalone market, at least I've heard nothing of them being for FirePro professional graphics offerings?
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    Dude, just... just... get out.

    Even nVidia fans ridicule you... You're that bad.


    @Eroticus: GTX TITAN can't 4-way SLi as far as I'm aware... But I get what you mean.

    Which reminds me... anyone considered the sheer power a 4-way R9 290X Crossfire over Mantle would bring!?
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    http://youtu.be/PVOL7Fbd6go - Titan 4-way SLI
    http://www.legitreviews.com/geforce-gtx-680-4-way-sli-review-on-hardware-info_12692 - GTX680 4-way SLI

    4-way SLI/Crossfire is nothing new to AMD nor nVidia.
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    You know you can snip parts out of posts that don't concert what you're replying to, right...
    Anyway, I must have mixed (deducted) the part where nVidia kept claiming that triple-SLi TITANs are faster than double GTX 690 (so quad/4x), with a 4x GTX TITAN configuration not being possible. And I'm well aware of 4x GPU configurations, SLi or CF, I was exclusively referring to TITANs in my original post.
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    Not sure on that but I am guessing you would need to park your PC next to the nearest nuclear power plant :D
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    Gee, can I? Didn't know that.
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    LOL you go on as if extra performance from AMD is a bad thing, and that AMD wont have better coolers from AIB`s. The only one I see panicking is Nvidia (Massive $150 price drop LOL), but wait - that is nothing, wait till the 290 hits.. Nvidia is getting exactly what it did with pricing the 680 cheaper against the 7970. And don`t people think enough is enough for Nvidia milking people as long as they have?

    The 290X is Faster and at the same price/performance even though the 780 is slower and $50 cheaper Duh. I would go as far and say the 290X is a much better deal with water cooling, or just wait for after market cards which will thoroughly trounce the Titan and 780.

    Who cares what Nvidia or AMD think or do, its what we customers want or think that matters.. I don't understand you praising Nvidia`s profits over customers getting the better deal.. Seriously you should get out more as your priorities are f`ed up.


    Its funny and helerious seeing people getting upset bcoz AMD is squeezing more performance out of their cards LOL.

    The 780ti is going to be a furnace, power hungry and expensive. The 780 and Titan is already hot and power hungry once they are overclocked. The Titan at default settings easily reaches 85c, and the noise/heat is not much different for the 290X vs the 680/titan/780
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    Silly mortal...

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    2 and 3 are FUD! The first of the link are a joke!
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    Remember the Nvidia FSAA cheat? You could select "8xFSAA" in the display controls and without telling you, it would drop back to 4x or 2x depending on the resolution you were running.

    Nvidia deliberately slowing down games coz it slows down the radeons more
    http://techreport.com/review/21404/crysis-2-tessellation-too-much-of-a-good-thing

    AMD Alleges NVIDIA Cheats in HD HQV
    http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8608

    Futuremark confirms nVidia is cheating in benchmark
    http://www.geek.com/games/futuremark-confirms-nvidia-is-cheating-in-benchmark-553361/

    Nvidia cheats on 3DMark with 177.39 drivers
    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1048824/nvidia-cheats-3dmark-177-drivers

    nVidia cheating with HAWX optimisations to fake benchmark figures
    http://www.kitguru.net/forum/nvidia...awx-optimisations-fake-benchmark-figures.html

    The List is endless, and I just wanted to open your eyes to the fact Nvidia is no Angel and have a history of bad tactics.

    Oh and remember this. see below.

    http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/09/nvidias-manchurian-fans-shill-for-gear/
    http://consumerist.com/2006/02/06/did-nvidia-hire-online-actors-to-promote-their-products/
    http://forum.xbitlabs.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9649
    http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1668756

    Again the list is endless.
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  15. xvi

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    Drivers aren't perfect at release. It's not too terribly farfetched that AMD found an improvement to code.

    As for the "cheating at benchmarks" thing, almost EVERYONE does it. Good reviews will test for this.

    Ah. It was early in the morning for me and I made the mistake of blindly trusting Firefox's built-in dictionary, a mistake I make all too often. Corrected.

    I'd imagine AMD would have to re-think how CrossFire works for Mantle. If I'm not mistaken, they had to work on implementation for both DirectX and OpenGL somewhat separately, or at the very least. I'm no Mantle engineer though.

    AMD seems to have a few good things going for it in the near future. Should be interesting to see how this unfolds for both sides.
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