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Radioactive decay is not a constant.

Discussion in 'Science & Technology' started by TheMailMan78, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. TheMailMan78

    TheMailMan78 Big Member

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    This shoots so many proven theories down. Its again proof that we as species have no f#$king clue what we are doing when looking at the universe.

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    Its always interesting when some theory that was taken as granted for a long time gets shaken up. And its always some dude who randomly noticed something off. We may not know jack about the universe, but we keep inching forward.

    I just glanced over the article as I should be doing something else; is the random decay process even considerably off, or so marginal that when determining the age of some ancient thing, it comes down to mere days off?
     
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    Ummmm.....so this means that there is a chance that all these carbon dating were a bit off ?

    Yes....finally a good news.
     
  4. TheMailMan78

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    It all depends on the distance from the Sun. Could be days off. Could be thousands of years off. They don't know. All in all its a kick to the nuts of Archeology and quantum phyics......I love it! :laugh:

    I love nature. Its the ultimate troll.
     
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    Well that's interesting. It sounds like they have more questions than answers though. It will be interesting where it leads.
     
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    trickson OH, I have such a headache

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    I heard this on " Through the wormhole " ! I love that show .
     
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    neutrinos affecting decay rates is nothing surprising.

    if you shoot neutrons at atoms they decay faster too (nuclear power, atomic bomb)

    would be interesting to see some deviation numbers and compare that to time x number of atoms x number of neutrinos x neutrino interaction chance
     
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    Wrigleyvillain PTFO or GTFO

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    Indeed. Everything about it is great down to Morgan Freeman as narrator. Guess I missed that one though.
     
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    Eh. I've yet to see anything new or exciting on that through the wormhole crap. And I have hard time looking at Morgan Freeman without thinking about that whole stepdaughter thing.
     
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    This is interesting stuff. Thanks. Nice to know even the Sun still holds secrets.
     
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    Wrigleyvillain PTFO or GTFO

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    Well I'm not exactly a science geek so I find it informative, interesting and entertaining.
     
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    trickson OH, I have such a headache

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    I agree .
     
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    ""It doesn't make sense according to conventional ideas," Fischbach said. Jenkins whimsically added, "What we're suggesting is that something that doesn't really interact with anything is changing something that can't be changed."

    Beautiful sentence there.
     
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    It's exactly as my high school physics professor said. In Science, there is no fact. There is no proof. There are only theories. As we do experiments and perform observations, we can say that a theory is more or less likely true. After time and many properly performed experiments, a theory can be said to be more and more (or less) likely. The "laws" of physics are merely theories which have proven to be very likely true, at least under our observable conditions. (but cannot be said to be, within the constraints of true science. Since we cannot control all variables - or in many cases are not even aware of half the variables involved)

    As soon as you start saying anything is without a doubt undeniably true, you are no longer peddling science, you're peddling religion.

    (yeah, yeah, MATH, I know...)
     
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    Everybody knows there are problems with the standard model. For example the zero point energy predicted by quantum mechanics is off by 120 orders of magnitude from what is measured via the Casimir effect.

    I think most physicists would be excited to find that there is some new physics to be discovered beyond what the current standard model can account for.
     
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    Humanity has come quite far in describing the phenomena around us but the truth is that what we know that we don't know grows faster than what we know (wait wut? :D). We still have many (many) unanswered questions some of which pertain to very fundamental things like the earths magnetic field and climate; the origins of life (as opposed to species); the workings of the mind; even the existence of existence.

    The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. - Stephen Hawking
    I recently saw a couple episodes of Through the Wormhole, and although I didn't see anything new, I really enjoyed the show. Morgan Freeman, and/or his writers, ask the most fundamental questions which are often indirectly confronted by hosts who do not want to overburden (terrify) their audience. I think Carl Sagan would very much enjoy the spirit of Freeman's show.
    Also, I can't stop thinking about the stepdaughter thing when I'm watching the show either! :roll:
     
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    God did it /end thread. lol jk

    Interesting stuff.
     
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    Naaaa just nature trollin'. Good stuff indeed lol

    I wish I had the power of nature. I would be trollin' people like Hawkins and the pope like CRAZY!
     
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    So correct me if i am wrong, atomic clocks are worthless?
     
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    They don't rely on radioactive decay to function.



    This discovery isn't going to have much impact on anything except the age of the known universe. We're still talking billions of years old but it might end up being ± 1 billion years from 13.75 billion years old instead of the tighter margin of error previously used (± 0.11 billion years).
     
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    It plays into radiation treatment also. It will allow doctors to be more precise in the dosage.....in theory.
     
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    Yeah, which could lead to a higher success rate when treating cancers with radiation therapy. It's still ironic they use radiation which often causes cancers as a means to kill cells/treat cancer.
     
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    i rather have a +20% chance of cancer in 10 years than a 100% chance of dying from cancer in 3 months
     

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