RBE, 69xx, video clocks, and how they all fit

tecnoworld · Jan 11, 2011

interesting: does it work with non asus cards as well?

Murjuk · Jan 11, 2011

Yep, just flash asus bios.

davetheshrew · Jan 11, 2011

no, just use an asus bios and mod it for voltage and use sd for range enhancement, voltage controll in sd is crap

Murjuk · Jan 11, 2011

davetheshrew said:
no, just use an asus bios and mod it for voltage and use sd for range enhancement, voltage controll in sd is crap

It is not so sensitive but it works. I will try to edit this BIOS with RBE 1.27.

Are we there yet?

tecnoworld · Jan 11, 2011

will changing the vendor ID through RBE be enough to fool SD?

BAGZZlash · Jan 11, 2011

tecnoworld said:
Couldn't you just get the overdrive signature from the 6970 BIOS? Dunno if that's feasible..

Maybe. That's something I leave for the community to find out 'cause I don't have one of those cards. Changing DeviceID back to 6950 might be necessary afterwards.

davetheshrew said:
a good thing to do is just install smartdoctor and tick overclocking range enhancement and then uninstall SD. works fine even when I install another ccc over the top. my ccc limits are 1620/2500

Cool, didn't know that. :eek:

tecnoworld said:
will changing the vendor ID through RBE be enough to fool SD?

I did a few quick tests and found, that not, not even with SSID changed as well. Maybe reinstalling Catalyst will be necessary after changing VendorID.

tecnoworld · Jan 11, 2011

davetheshrew said:
a good thing to do is just install smartdoctor and tick overclocking range enhancement and then uninstall SD. works fine even when I install another ccc over the top. my ccc limits are 1620/2500

it would be nice to know what is changed by SD in the register (or wherever) to unlock CCC, and create a small app that does the same thing...

Murjuk · Jan 11, 2011

BAGZZlash said:
Maybe. That's something I leave for the community to find out 'cause I don't have one of those cards.

Cool, didn't know that.

Seriously? :eek:

Maybe you can do sth. with it to make RBE do that.

Murjuk · Jan 11, 2011

tecnoworld said:
it would be nice to know what is changed by SD in the register (or wherever) to unlock CCC, and create a small app that does the same thing...

SD installs some kind of driver. "EIO Driver" Maybe it is relevant to it.

davetheshrew · Jan 11, 2011

tecnoworld said:
it would be nice to know what is changed by SD in the register (or wherever) to unlock CCC, and create a small app that does the same thing...

this would be very cool, i know someone that may help, il post back in a bit.

Boomstick777 · Jan 11, 2011

Any news on if 1.27 is released today?

Murjuk · Jan 11, 2011

Boomstick777 said:
Any news on if 1.27 is released today?

Waiting W1zzard. He is not online right now.

Amorpheus · Jan 11, 2011

BAGZZlash said:
Should be. Depends on W1zzard now.

No sneak preview?

jimmyz · Jan 11, 2011

Amorpheus said:
No sneak preview?

Merry Christmas guys..

I made 2 files for you, one ASUS file which will work with Smart doctor 5.74 and a Sapphire file for those who don't want to or don't know how to force flash. The non ASUS cards will require a force flash to be done, otherwise you will get a subsystem ids mismatch error. (With ASUS bios)

As always, use at your own risk etc, Ninjalane nor Techpowerup is responsible etc.

BTW the stock 3-d voltage is 1.175, I bumped that to 1.275 in each file. everything else is standard, Powerplay etc still works like factory.

http://www.ninjalane.com/files/downloads/asus.zip

http://www.ninjalane.com/files/downloads/sapphire.zip

And as always, make a back-up before you flash, use the latest ATIwinflash or DOS based ATIflash. Be careful when flashing, close all open programs, Stock system, Set the card to default etc.

Charly · Jan 11, 2011

Thanks,
How high can u set the voltage in RBE?

jimmyz · Jan 11, 2011

Higher than the mosfets can handle. The max in theory is like 2v. but anything over 1.5 is suicide, even on LN2. I tested as high as 1.5v on air and it gets too hot to complete a bench even with fans at 100% so realistic volts, 1.35 max with good cooling, scaling really slows down over 1.3v more volts just makes it hotter.

Boomstick777 · Jan 11, 2011

jimmyz said:
Merry Christmas guys..

I made 2 files for you, one ASUS file which will work with Smart doctor 5.74 and a Sapphire file for those who don't want to or don't know how to force flash. The non ASUS cards will require a force flash to be done, otherwise you will get a subsystem ids mismatch error. (With ASUS bios)

As always, use at your own risk etc, Ninjalane nor Techpowerup is responsible etc.

BTW the stock 3-d voltage is 1.175, I bumped that to 1.275 in each file. everything else is standard, Powerplay etc still works like factory.

http://www.ninjalane.com/files/downloads/asus.zip

http://www.ninjalane.com/files/downloads/sapphire.zip

And as always, make a back-up before you flash, use the latest ATIwinflash or DOS based ATIflash. Be careful when flashing, close all open programs, Stock system, Set the card to default etc.

Any chance of an Asus bios with 950/1525 clocks at 1.22 Volts? Would be much appreciated

Can powerplay settings be alterted in RBE? If power play is at default and volts are higher will this make card unstable still.. I mean would you have to have powerplay set to +20% in ccc even if you are voltage overclocked?

DJManiac · Jan 11, 2011

jimmyz said:
BTW the stock 3-d voltage is 1.175, I bumped that to 1.275 in each file. everything else is standard, Powerplay etc still works like factory.

http://www.ninjalane.com/files/downloads/asus.zip

Thanks for this... I have a strange behavior:
I flash your ASUS Bios with success! And temps went higher as expected. Also OC was better of course BUT then I decided to flash back to stock 6970 Bios but then It looks like that the higher VGPU still is active!!! Same Temps and same OC than with your ASUS Bios...
Any suggestions????

BAGZZlash · Jan 11, 2011

Charly said:
Thanks,
How high can u set the voltage in RBE?

VT1556M can be programmed from 250 mV to up to 2.805 V. Range should be enough for everyone. :eek:

Murjuk · Jan 11, 2011

Could anyone get the signature method work? I tried msi 6850 oc signature given above, windows booted for first time and it reconfigured the driver settings. After that, second boot was a failure.(Black screen crash)

Falkentyne · Jan 11, 2011

DJManiac said:
Thanks for this... I have a strange behavior:
I flash your ASUS Bios with success! And temps went higher as expected. Also OC was better of course BUT then I decided to flash back to stock 6970 Bios but then It looks like that the higher VGPU still is active!!! Same Temps and same OC than with your ASUS Bios...
Any suggestions????

Did you power OFF the computer after the flash?
I'm sort of concerned why your temps/OC would remain the same...

DJManiac · Jan 11, 2011

Falkentyne said:
Did you power OFF the computer after the flash?
I'm sort of concerned why your temps/OC would remain the same...

No just reboot.... But as RBE1.27 is out I change stock Bios of XFX670 to VGPU 1220 and Temps are lower again...

Dont know what happend... Never mind!

tecnoworld · Jan 12, 2011

I saw now that 1.27 is indeed online:

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1924/TechPowerUp_Radeon_Bios_Editor_v1.27.html

tecnoworld · Jan 12, 2011

I created the following BIOS:

http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=50zvsqxkllc

starting from my unlocked 6950, converted to Asus brand. I didn't change the voltage (you can do that with SD in Windows, to test the limits of your own card). So the base voltage is still 1.0v for the GPU.

Murjuk · Jan 12, 2011

tecnoworld said:
I created the following BIOS:

http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=50zvsqxkllc

starting from my unlocked 6950, converted to Asus brand. I didn't change the voltage (you can do that with SD in Windows, to test the limits of your own card). So the base voltage is still 1.0v for the GPU.

Don't try this BIOS, it does not work.

Processor	Core i7 2600k
Motherboard	ASRock Pro3 Socket 1155
Cooling	Cooler Master 212+
Memory	8GB Corsair 2000MHz
Video Card(s)	HD 6970 2GB 900/1450 Stock Volts
Storage	2TB Samsung F1/F3 Intel Raid 0
Display(s)	Dell 24" 1080P
Case	Antec 900

System Name	Black ice
Processor	QX 9650 @ 5ghz @ 1.55v
Motherboard	DFI X-38 T2R
Cooling	jinu ss in v-2000b+2
Memory	crucial ballistix tracer ddr2 1066 asynch 4-4-4-5
Video Card(s)	2 x Radeon 4850 voltmodded watercooled
Storage	4x seagate 250gb in RAID 0
Display(s)	24" SOYO LCD 1920x1200
Case	vapoli v2000b+2 (lian-li)
Audio Device(s)	onboard karjan audio
Power Supply	pc power & cooling silencer 750 Quad
Software	windows mce 2005 (xp pro basically) dual boot w/ Vista Home premium.

System Name	Black ice
Processor	QX 9650 @ 5ghz @ 1.55v
Motherboard	DFI X-38 T2R
Cooling	jinu ss in v-2000b+2
Memory	crucial ballistix tracer ddr2 1066 asynch 4-4-4-5
Video Card(s)	2 x Radeon 4850 voltmodded watercooled
Storage	4x seagate 250gb in RAID 0
Display(s)	24" SOYO LCD 1920x1200
Case	vapoli v2000b+2 (lian-li)
Audio Device(s)	onboard karjan audio
Power Supply	pc power & cooling silencer 750 Quad
Software	windows mce 2005 (xp pro basically) dual boot w/ Vista Home premium.

Processor	Core i7 2600k
Motherboard	ASRock Pro3 Socket 1155
Cooling	Cooler Master 212+
Memory	8GB Corsair 2000MHz
Video Card(s)	HD 6970 2GB 900/1450 Stock Volts
Storage	2TB Samsung F1/F3 Intel Raid 0
Display(s)	Dell 24" 1080P
Case	Antec 900

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