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  1. t_ski

    t_ski Former Staff

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    You can buy system builder packs from NewEgg and Tiger Direct. My work bought 600 Vista Business OEM CD's and not any hardware to go with it.
     
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    Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie

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    rules state "possession" not "ownership"

    hence my questioning of the rules.
     
  3. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    different country, different rules.


    anyway, its all moot: moderators have final say, it was deemed a no-no for various reasons.

    There are ways of appealing the decision (make a thread in comments n feedback, PM w1zzard).
     
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    Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie

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    W1zz said this is all up to MODS.

    he wants no part of it.
     
  5. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    and the mods made a decision.

    If w1zz supports that decision, then the appeal is basically rejected and the item cannot be sold.
     
  6. t_ski

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    What's the solution for an international site like TPU then? I have seen other forums prohibit the sale of any OEM software, and others that allow no software period. Being an avid seller here and other places, I would prefer no OEM over no software period.
     
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    ^This.

    Please look at TPU as a free service and the limitations attached to it, not something you're entitled to, and try to circumvent "rules".

    Speaking of which, TPU has no rules, only guidelines. Using the term "guidelines" gives its enforcers the flexibility to handle any situation, in any way deemed fit as long as it's pro-TPU and the community, not individuals.
     
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    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    well thats just it, we gotta make it up as we go along, and play it safe so that TPU cant get its ass (legally) handed to it.

    Perhaps we will ban OEM software at some point.
     
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  9. t_ski

    t_ski Former Staff

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    My vote would be for no OEM then, even if it sucks that I can't sell some old OS disks I have :(
     
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    you can, just not here...
     
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    Allow people to sell OEM software if they provide some form of hardware with it (a single stick of RAM???) that was installed when the OS was in use on said rig???

    This will circumvent any issues Microshaft have with resale.....by their own rules on resale etc, is not illegal.
     
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    Ok, here's my call. The disk says right on it "To be sold with a new PC only." I'm standing by that. I don't care if you sell the disk, you just aren't going to do it here. Also, let this be a warning. I'm not going to tolerate any more "bending" of the rules from you regardless of who you are or who you claim to be. End of topic.
     
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    no oem software

    W1zzard, 12.04.2010 16:51:40:
    are you selling key or box ?

    fit, 16:51:55:
    key, box, dvd, manual

    that made me think you had a retail version
     
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    should have showed you picture. that would have cleared it up. :)
     
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    so can we add "no oem software sales" to the list of rules?

    thats the point i am trying to make.

    should we not sell OEM hardware as well?
     
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    I know - just trying to help come up with a solution :toast:
     
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    To my knowledge, I have never seen an OEM hardware package that said it could only be sold as part of a system. I think that's the point the mods are trying to make here: that the OEM software says it needs to be sold with a computer.
     
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    Conversation is basically over. The mods have decided that no OEM software is allowed. We will revise the guidelines to reflect this.
     
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    Rules are being finalized ... But yes, basically no OEM software.
     
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    OK, great - thanks for helping to clear up the question :toast:
     
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    Can it be made so that this thread is always the highlighted thread prior to entering the B/S/T forum? It'd certainly catch the attention of newcomers and reduce the amount of threads needing to be closed.
     
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    The people who don't bother to read the rules in the first place won't read it no matter how clearly it can be seen. Unfortunately it's not a minority.
     
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    What I don't understand is why OEM OSes can't be sold. It isn't illegal to sell the OS by itself, in fact the OEM licence doesn't even apply to any of the sellers, only the initial person that opens the package. There are a set of rules for the person that opens the package, which can be seen on the white sleeve before openning the package, and there are a set of rules that the person installing the software agrees to when they are installing the software.

    The person buying the OS from newegg, then selling it un-openned here, aren't bound by any licensing.

    Perhaps the rule needs to be no selling of openned or used OEM software without the white sleeve in tacts, meaning the red stickers on the end aren't broken...
     
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    It's a forum rule that was set by a majority of TPU's staff and moderators that is particular to the forum and has little to do with any national or international law. The same as requiring heatware or posting a picture in a thread.
     

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