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Discussion in 'Buy/Sell/Trade/Giveaway Forum' started by Fitseries3, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. Fitseries3

    Fitseries3 Eleet Hardware Junkie

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    I need to inform you guys of paypals new practices.

    Paypal now reserves the right to "Audit" any account and verify account activity is legitimate.

    Q. when you sell something, whether it be on Ebay or the forums, do you send the item with a tracking number? do you submit that tracking number to paypal?

    A. most people don't.

    Why is this important?

    If paypal decides to audit your account... any transaction in the last 12 months WILL BE addressed and if you cannot provide tracking numbers for items you have sold paypal will put a temporary hold on the amount for EACH transaction that you did not provide tracking info on.

    this is NO JOKE! i do 30-50 paypal transactions a month and recently got audited. they took almost $4000 from my account and suspended all account activity until i could provide proof that i sent out all the items. it was a MESS, no DISASTER finding all those people and getting the tracking numbers for each item. i DO have the tracking numbers and i keep them, but they only tell you that the item was delivered and what date it got there. paypal WILL NOT "take the word" of the buyer who says "yeah, he shipped it to me and i got it." they MUST have a tracking number to prove it.

    several other people on other forums and even on ebay have had this happen. paypal notified me that this new practice had been made effective 1-1-2008 and is in the TOS agreement on their site.

    so what do you do?
    from now on, when you sell something and receive payment through paypal... ship it with some sort of tracking number. whether it be UPS, FEDEX, USPS, DHL, etc.... GET A TRACKING NUMBER and log on to your paypal account... go to the transaction for that item you sold... and down at the bottom, you'll see..."Add tracking info"

    im just trying to save you the hassle!
     
  2. Solaris17

    Solaris17 Creator Solaris Utility DVD

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    o damn....i man
     
  3. das müffin mann

    das müffin mann New Member

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    damn dude that sucks, i never really did like paypal, now this gives me another reason to continue not liking them, to bad its prob the safest and cheapest ways of sending money
     
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    does it includes money transfer ?
    I mean, all moneytransfer must be backed by some info about it ??

    DaC
     
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    man that sucks massively.. but i only use paypal for buying stuff so i should be right.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, kinda sucks that they started doing that. I assume it's not just impletmented in the US, but worldwide.

    What would of happened if you send those $4000 worth of items without a tracking number? Would they just of debitted your bank account and metaphorically raped you?

    That really sucks of them.
     
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    This freaked me out so I called and the story I got was, "it takes someone getting complaints from buyers to trigger any type of audit". Take that for what it is worth.
     
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    read my feedback. i ship stuff ASAP and use tracking numbers every time. i am at the computer answering questions within seconds that i get them. my item detail is very thorough. what could've i done to deserve complaints?

    they audited my stepdads account and he only uses it once every month or so.
     
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    have had to good of service?
     
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    +1 i would have complained cause u were making me look bad.
     
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    Nothing sometimes, Some people are just like that. Wouldn't be surprised if it was just random auditing though, some how this doesn't seem legal to just seize $4000 for stuff that was sold before their rule came into effect. Good luck on sorting it out though, and thanks for the heads up, I'll make sure i add tracking info if I sell something and receive payment via paypal.
     
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    Dunno why PayPal wants to mess with ya fit, I've had an excellent experience purchasing from ya! But I think there's some sort of legality that will bite them in the ass for things like this. Sure it's nice to know they're watching, but I feel unless reported or highly suspicious...they shouldn't act in such a way. Thanks for the heads up!

    :toast:
     
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    it has happened to Mgorius over at evga forums, a few people on PCpitstop, my stepdad, several others. im just warning others to be more carefull.

    they dont take the moey from your bank account or anything, just your paypal account. i had a negative balance of $39XX.XX for over a week.
     
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    Royally sucks. Ive never sold anything, but if I ever do, Ill be damn sure to get a tracking number and not go through this bullcrap. Id likely send them a bomb or something if they did that to me.
     
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    Thank you very much. I just started using PayPal and made my first sale a month ago without giving them a tracking number.
     
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    Thx, for the heads up man!
     
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    this SHOULD be a sticky. i dont want others to go through this crap i had to go through.
     
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    does this apply if your transferring money to a family member?
     
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    That would have to apply only to "Goods" not services.
     
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    alright thanks that answers my question
     
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    anything that is sold on ebay or declared as goods through paypal. when you send someone money it asks you what the money is for.
    thanks CD.
     
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    sounds like ebay only transactions ?

     
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    I've always hated PayPal. The have ripped me off so many times. I just use it cus its convenient.

    I don't see how thats legal though...what do they do with the money, give it back to the buyer :p?
     
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    yea same prob as you man, my paypal shows -400 right now, havnt used it in 6 months now, WTF.

    What really sucks is one of them for 200 bucks was a friend helping me out to pay rent, and it was paypal to paypal with nothing else entitled. I can't provide tracking info
     
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    due process and legal requirements/ legal rights thrown out the window in lue of temporary security? sounds like a familiar quote....
     

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