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Recommend me a GPU which will meet my humble needs!

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  1. Pipps New Member

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    Please recommend to me a GPU which will meet my needs.

    I am not a hardcore gamer. I will be mainly playing only Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 and Half Life 2 (Counter Strike). I would like to be able to play both of these games on their full respective graphics settings.

    My setup already comprises and Intel Dual Core 2.0GHZ and 4GB DDR2 667 RAM.

    I would like a GPU which is as cost-effective and heat-efficient as possible, whilst still performing the minor gaming tasks I desire. I definitely wouldn't wish for the fastest card that money can buy.

    I would also like a removal fan so that I can mount my own cooling solution.

    Second-hand or retail purchase options are both equally appealing.

    I look forward to hearing your ideas. Thank you.
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  3. KainXS

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    an HD4770 should do you good if you can find one

    a GSO isn't bad if your really on a budget though

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    hat beat me
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    Thank you for two lightening-fast suggestions!

    The 9600 GSO looks good. I am more familiar with GeForce cards. Is it similar to the 8800 GS?

    Are 'shader operations' the best indication of the card's ability for the sorts of games that I have mentioned?
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    it is the 8800GS, you can think of the shader operations as the cards raw performance but rops are needed to maintain that power as you increase in resolution, in short no, not really but the GSO will max half life like its nothing, im not to sure about the other game though, but going by its system requirements it should max that too

    what resolution does your monitor support at max(this is important)
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  7. Pipps New Member

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    Thank you for the advice, the reassurance and the question.

    My monitor is a Samsung SM923NW 19" widescreen - recommended resolution is 1400x900.

    Does this alter my position with respect to this card in any way?
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    well, if your res is that low you might as well buy a GSO, thats lower than 1280x1024

    do you plan on upgrading your monitor anytime soon

    also do you live in uk
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    Yes, I do live in the UK. And I don't plan on updating my monitor. I've just bought this 19" and I'm still mesmorised by it's size and quality. I couldn't dream of requiring anything more!

    I would very much like a passive card with a hearty heatsink mounted to the top (rather than bottom).

    The Sparkle GeForce 9600 GT seems to fit the bill perfectly for this silent approach.

    How would you appraise this card in comparison to those which have already been mentioned?
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    Is there any particular reason for a passive card?
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    My reason is in the quest for reducing noise as much as possible.

    I am running an Intel Dual Core 2.0GHz E1400 65W processor, [delete]and a Geforce 9600 GT graphics card[/delete].

    I have an Antec Sonata III Case with a 120mm Kaze Jyuni intake at the front and a 120mm Antec Tricool at the rear.

    I had been intending to use a Zalman VF2000 on either on the CPU or the GPU. But now I figure that the rare yet ingenius top-mounted-heatsink on the Sparkle 9600 GT would work perfectly with my overall case ventilation.

    What do you think?
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    what you have now is fast enough . . . .

    you don't need a new card to run those games


    actually a GSO would be a downgrade, you can only upgrade to a GTS 250 or HD4850 really, anything else isn't worth it
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    What do you mean?

    I don't have any card at present!
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    so what did you mean by 9600GT
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    Allow me to quote myself, hopefully without affectation:

    Does this make sense?
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    Yeah, you said "I am running an Intel Dual Core 2.0GHz E1400 65W processor, and a Geforce 9600 GT graphics card", implying that you already had a 9600gt.

    Well I know nothing about UK shops or UK prices so I can't help you out. I only hoped you were in the US cause that was a deal that even I would have jumped on in your shoes.
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    You are both right and I am wrong! Thank you for the clarification.

    I do not have a 9600 GT. I have no card at all this point. I am still on the verge of investment.

    May I still ask - how would you compare the 9600 GT to the 9800 GSO?
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    What does this comparison mean in real terms?
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    the problem now is that in the UK video card prices are not low as you probably know by now, the 9600GT is barely slower than the 9800GT though in older games like HL2, but in newer games it gets left behind

    someone from UK on this board will have to help you with the prices because I don't live in uk
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    How much would you like to spend?

    EDIT:

    I'm thinking this
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/153311

    As a GTS250/HD4850 costs close to the same price at most other etailers. Might as well proof yourself with newer games.

    EDIT2:

    Although I will need to know what brand/model OR specs of the power supply in the pc.
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    Thanks for the recommendation. That looks like a good GPU. However, it would be introducing another fan into the equation, and I am not sure that it would be the best overall choice for my otherwise silent PC.

    My PSU is an Antec Earhtwats 500W. My motherboard is currently the Asus P5Q Pro.

    What do you think of the specs of these items?
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    Well very very close to my wifes rig. Since you are wanting an out of the box silent solution your going to be paying a pretty penny for it. Quite hard to find passive cards out of the box when you can get a video card thats close to twice as performing but have an active cooling solution. So I will state .... I would pickup the 4870 as its hard to find one at that price.

    EDIT

    But on second thought you are res limited but add some AA/AF to the equation and you will be maxing those games plus quite a bit of others, actually many many others.
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    Looks to me that either the Nvidia 9600GSO or the Ati 4670 would do the job, both retailing around the £55 mark in the UK for a 512Mb version. Expect to pay a slight premium for a passive version of either. Both have very similar performance and will max HL2/CSS on your monitor and should do the same for PES2009 although I've not seen any benchmarks or played PES2009.

    From ebuyer as follows:

    Zotac 9600GSO - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155596

    and

    ASUS 4670 - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152940

    The advantage of the 4670 is that it doesn't need a power connection from your power supply as it gets all it's power from the PCIe slot - basically it's more power efficient.

    Or passive 4670 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-HD-4670-512MB-ULTIMATE/dp/B001RPAKTS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1245160532&sr=8-1
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    The 9800GT is better. More ram and more shaders, and higher clockspeeds to boot. It's like comparing a car that does 70MPH to a van that does 100MPH, the van transports more at the same time... and faster. The car is the 9600GSO and the van is the 9800GT.
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    Hello, I'm from the UK so I’m familiar with the best prices for video cards and where to obtain the best deals. The best video cards for the job are the ATI 4770, 4830, 4850 or Nvidia 9800 GTX+, GTS 250

    Unfortunately prices have gone up slightly but those cards can still be had for cheap, you will not benefit from their maximum performance due to the processor bottleneck but they should be suffice for playing those games you mentioned.

    XFX ATI Radeon HD 4830 512MB GDDR3 £75.04 inc vat
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?XFX-4830


    Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4770 512MB GDDR5 £79.21 inc vat (recommended)
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SAP-4770

    Novatech GeForce GTS 250 SLI 512MB £85.09 inc vat
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?NOV-250

    Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 4850 Vapour-X 512MB GDDR3 £87.39 inc vat
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?SAP-4850VX


    If your budget is abysmal consider the ATI 4670, its £57.49 inc vat
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?NOV-4670

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