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  1. MattMilne94 New Member

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    http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177438

    Graphics card: radeon 7850 HD OC edition
    Mobo:ASUS P8h77-v le
    Power supply: 600w corsair power supply
    RAM: 8GB corsair vengance
    hard drive: 500GB
    CPU: intel i5 3450

    Hi, I have had my new build for around 2 months and from the offset I have been experiencing crashing. The crashing occurs whilst gaming and can happen after random amounts of time

    For example - I could play black ops 2 for 1 hour, crashes, then I can play it for another 4 hours which makes me think its not temperature.

    Things I have done to try and fix it:

    Reinstall Operating system
    MemTest overnight
    Monitored temperature
    Sent my graphcis card back to the manufacturer and got a new one
    Also put my computer into a computer shop and they found no problems with it
    Scanned the hard drive

    I am so annoyed that I can't find out what the problem is, and any help would be much appreciated
     
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    Don't run an OC and see if it still happens.

    May be memory compatibility with MB (BIOS Update).

    Failing HDD can also show these signs.

    Failing PSU can also show these signs.

    Spray it with fire?
     
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    The card came pre overclocked
     
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    You running the latest drivers?

    I know it sounds lame, but do you have adequate cooling in your case. sooooooo many avenues that could cause a crashing PC.
     
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    I have an IN WIN MANA 136 Mid tower case , its in my desk which has about 7cm of clearing on each side, is that to little?
     
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    Well yeah, sounds like a little toaster oven. Try running it outside of your desk with the side panel off.

    Game like that for a day and see what happens?
     
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    ok i'll see how that goes and let you know
     
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    What is the voltage of the ram? Sounds like it's not getting the power it needs.
     
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    I would suspect overheating. would you mind putting up a picture of your cooling?

    also post screen shots of the tabs of cpuz.
     
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    A trick I use on issues like this is run it with minimal hardware connected and programs running.

    no printer, sound card, web cam, extra drives, add ons, fancy stuff, and only one set of mem. And definetly no OC and memory timmings at STD

    Do a clean boot, play your game and see if it goes away. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/331796
     
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    You have tested everything else, I vote the PSU or the HDD. Leaning more towards the PSU.
     
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    WAIT. Before you do anything in the damn bios find out the error. Open the event viewer or the reliability monitor and list the error right before the kernel power error. They should be within seconds of each other.

    Going into the bios and messing with voltage, timings and such could only make the problem MUCH worse. Lets find out the issue is before we start stabbing in the dark.
     
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    MM "The Voice of Reason" to the rescue. While overheating is the "easy answer" MM has it right. See if any obvious errors pop up first before taking the "sledgehammer" approach.

    TC-Man found a fairly current BIOS which is not a bad idea either. ASUS make it super easy to update your BIOS just put the BIOS on a USB stick, go into the BIOS, Tools, EZ Flash. It will see the BIOS on the stick, couple of clicks and it's done.
     
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    Hi guys thanks for all the replies - I have now removed my computer for the "toaster area" and is still crashing. Could it be because my computers PSU points to the ground and there is a small gap underneath? i've tried raising the back to see how it goes.

    About the bios... I have already updated to the latest mobo bios

    About crashing. The computer doesn't go to the desktop after crashing - the screen colour varies and I have to hold down the power button and reboot to get any further response from my computer
     
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    In the even viewer these four errors occured within a minute:

    error -The previous system shutdown at 10:10:07 PM on ‎12/‎5/‎2012 was unexpected.

    critical -The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

    error-Session "Microsoft Security Client OOBE" stopped due to the following error: 0xC000000D
    error -Audit events have been dropped by the transport. 0
     
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    it's overheating. Please look up in the thread and rum core temp. periodically check temps and report them.
     
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    Temperature is an easy enough thing to test. A combination of coretemp and the intelburntest for the CPU, and Furmark for the GPU.

    If both temp tests pass, run them both at the same time. When gaming you're stressing both components out and there are rare cases where things are fine with only one part getting hot but get toasty when they're both going.

    If that passes, try out the Unigine Heaven benchmark. If your GPU is having stability problems I've found that benchmark to be good at exposing them(flashes of green/red light, BSoD, green squares popping up). You'll know it if you see it, it's always the first stability check I do when OCing my GPUs.

    You also may want to get a diagnostic test for your hdd, like Seagate's Seatools. They have something called a 'SMART check' that should let you know if your drive has any issues.

    If all of the above tests pass then at least you'll have it narrowed down a bit. My suggestion would be to make sure all your drivers are up to date and your RAM is running to manufacturer specs and in the right slots.
     
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    I remember having a similar random crashing issue when I first built my current system. After checking and rechecking everything, in the end, the culprit was the "CPU phase control" set to auto under the green power sub menu.

    Unfortunately, you have a different system. good luck.
     
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    I ran furmark and my idle gpu temperature was 28-30 C and was 50+ whilst running the program i will now try intelburntest
     
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    Whilst running both fur mark and intelburn test i got:

    Linkpack output:
    Time (s) Speed (GFlops) Result
    10.208 87.5680 3.526496e-002
    10.343 86.4250 3.526496e-002
    10.336 86.4798 3.526496e-002
    10.264 87.0891 3.526496e-002
    10.335 86.4904 3.526496e-002
    10.335 86.4939 3.526496e-002
    10.379 86.1270 3.526496e-002
    10.318 86.6374 3.526496e-002
    10.234 87.3455 3.526496e-002
     
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    I also ran the seagate seatools smart check and it passed
     
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    I have also just noticed something in my catalyst control center - which has checked box saying enable graphics overdrive (which is ticked)
     

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