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Samsung Miniaturizes 1920x1080 Pixels Into A 4.8" Display

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  1. xBruce88x

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    Yea... its about time all these 720p TVs came down in price, a lot. also, i think its about time for more 2560x1440 monitors at 27in+ and at a much lower price! hell if they can squeeze 1920x1080 into less than 5in... then they could probably do 2560x1440 in a 19-21in monitor.

    did you run the calibration wizard for the fonts for "clear type" http://www.microsoft.com/typography/cleartype/tuner/tune.aspx
  2. Completely Bonkers New Member

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    Yes, Goodman did something wrong on his dad's computer.

    The resolution should always match the native of the screen. You don't play guesswork "My dad got an 21.5" monitor at 1920x1080 (yes Win7 in case you are wondering) & i find that to small for that type of monitor (had to adjust the DPI manually) anyways i thing it should be 1680x1050/1600x900 max. for an 20-22" monitor & the 1920x1080 should be left out to only 23"-27" size "

    Use the NATIVE resolution of the screen. Then set up the display settings (advanced) to 120dpi rather than 96dpi. Also set to "Large icons" (in display effects). And font smoothing to clera type. The clear type tuner isnt usually needed, but try it if you like. Whatever happens DO NOT USE "large fonts" which is something completely different and is a very bad attempt at making blind people read the screen.

    I use 120dpi on my netbook and on my workstation. Everything works 100% and looks great. If you are having problems, something isnt set up properly.
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    I think all you people are missing my point , i never said that i have a problem with my monitor or resolution & DPI i run everything as default on my 24" & it's all fine with me

    It's when you get smaller screen with higher resolution (Dad 21.5") that it doesn't look good & by that i mean letters looks so small that it makes harder to read unless you're real close to it , not that i or my Dad couldn't read it further away but harder on the eyes if you know what i mean...
    So i have set is monitor DPI to 115% manually & left the rest to default & it's all good this way , anything bigger like 120-125% DPI & it looks to big (letters wise) it's the same look as if you were to lower the resolution not that i did lower the resolution but look like it , get it now?

    As for the DPI in windows it should auto adjust but it does not it's always on 96 what ever screen you got

    High resolution 1080 on something that small is to me pretty much stupid & pointless like you're gona see any tiny details on such a small surface area , yeah! sure....
  4. Mussels

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    again, ever used an iphone 4? people said the same thing, but its damned nice to use. i can literally view entire pages on TPU exactly as i would on a PC, no zooming, no scrolling. i can literally see a full page of text and read it on a tiny screen.


    these devices are not meant for old people with eyesight problems. that would be the ipad.
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    No wonder you are having problems. You need to set it to 120dpi (125%). There is a DIFFERENT FONT SET used by windows (which is why an "automatic font install" and reboot is required). 115% is going to scale those small fonts rather nastily across pixels and wont work so well with cleartype. Windows and GPU drivers are just not "optimised" for your customer 115%.

    125% too big you say? No. More like not enough shown on a y900 or y1080 screen. And if there is enough room, but you "feel" it is too big, then move the screen back a few inches. That's why you will see the whole Graphics Enthusiast Community go ON and ON and ON and ON about y1600 and higher screens and why we need HIGHER pixel density to render better font quality. We dont want smaller fonts. We want the same size but rendered with double the pixels.

    IMO your y1080 on 24" is just nasty. It is a consumer resolution and made "big to sell". I have y1200 on 21", and y1200 is NOT ENOUGH. I really want 2k x 2k. Hell, there are monitors out there that do that... just expensive due to specialist installations
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    its about a damm time, and since HD 7970 can display 4K resolution using fast HDMI or DP connector. we need 4K display right now
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    Even if it is, the screen itself is still 1920x1080, just the phone itself can't keep up. No problem.

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    It doesn't use a different font set, it's just that Windows renders the fonts as a bitmap and when you change the dpi Windows has to go through all the fonts and render them again. They are still the same fonts, just rendered differently.
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    i have 15.6" 1920x1080 screen on my laptop,
    and i can clearly see what's on the screen from like, 1 meter away,

    and it's just 140ppi
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    Actually, it is a little different from that even. I wanted to avoid getting technique with the person I was talking to who was already having problems matching native resolutions and using odd font scaling. In fact, fonts have hinting information, and this hinting information IS specific to dpi settings. There are "optimal" and "suboptimal" choices of what scaling you use and what is within the hinting tables within the font.
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    That's excellent - and I'll bet you've got damned good eyesight too. :D Roll on super-high res tiny screens!
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    Really?? How about those apps or web pages made in Flash or Java that don't scale together with custom DPI, and you cannot zoom also the text from apps or browsers?? I have a 17" laptop with the same res, and this problem is killing me. What about those?? Why do you think Apple dumped crappy Flash, hmm??
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    crummy photoshop in my opinion, im really just not believing the extremities this image portrays. i believe they will do thin bezels and large HD screen but not THAT exagerated
  13. hellrazor

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    Just like I said?
  14. AhokZYashA

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    just sit a bit closer to the screen then,
    its not that hard to just extend your neck a bit to see clearly,

    but it's not a problem with me just because I'm used to see small prints
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    NO, I don't want to stay closer to the screen, or stare at it like an a$$. My eyesight is 1 million times more important than that. :banghead::nutkick::slap:

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