ScienceMark thread (with score list)

[pt]

Does the fact I got a pop up (thank you Microsoft) telling me to install updates, have anything to do with this...or is it the fact that my computer is bollocks?

nop, just your mobo Canuto has the same memory as you and he's overclocking, is cpu is a 930, but i think he passed 3.3ghz

 

[Alec§taar]

w00t! 3.0GHz! infrared said it might be thermal throttling causing my gay CPU problems...

Man, know what helps? You kind of hit on something else "holding you down/back", believe-it-or-not:

Services running (that you DON'T ABSOLUTELY NEED TO LEAVE RUNNING ALL THE TIME!)

APK

P.S.=> Think that, & OTHER more 'intense' OS-side/software-side tuning/tweaking doesn't help? Trust me, it does...

Sorry about the "Casheti Classics" post I did man, but you got me LMAO this a.m., & I thank you for it... seriously! apk

 

[Casheti]

lol...I'm just still gobsmacked that this thing can actually clock...

And I shut off everything I could while benching

 

[Alec§taar]

Current Standings

Edited Scores Chart, Adding Casheti!

Apk

 

[Casheti]

Where's my score bitches?? AGE DISCRIMINATION!!

 

[Alec§taar]

lol...I'm just still gobsmacked that this thing can actually clock...

That's the fun part of discovering, doing this kind of thing (which takes time & some effort).

And I shut off everything I could while benching

You SURE? You saw the popup for Windows update... that tells me otherwise.

APK

P.S.=>

Where's my score bitches?? AGE DISCRIMINATION!!

DONE... apk

 

[Alec§taar]

Current Standings

REPOSTING TO ADD x800 scores...

APK

 

[Alec§taar]

Reposting Challenge To Next Page

CASTING CHALLENGE TO Tigger69 & his sidekick, Casheti... lol!

APK

 

[X800]

This is my scores.Ill be back when i get my x2 4800 that odered + watercoolingsystem that i have.

 

[Ketxxx]

right well im working on it now got my nF4 chipset humming along @ 425MHz, lets see how much SCM2 really loves big numbers

 

[Alec§taar]

Current Standings

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SCIENCEMARK 2.0 RESULTS 08/09/2006 BY SCORE ONLY:
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• Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)

• MikeLopez = 1700.24 (via 7x mult. X 428mhz FSB - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2996mhz)

• Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)

• Dj Dn = 1461.97 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)

• Alec§taar = 1440.60 (AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+/11x X 257mhz FSB/CPU@2827.2 & RAM@201.9/200)

• g12rxz = 1437.66 (AMD Athlon 64x2 n4200+ @ 2.6ghz o/c)

• Tigger69 = 1431.51 (Pentium D930@4385mhz)

• 33 = 1395.99 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ)

• gri3f = 1391.08 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@ stock oem mhz)

• JNT Raptor = 1383.82 (AMD ATHLON x2 3800+@2703mhz)

• Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz)

• Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)

• pt = 1256.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz)

• X800 = 1235.77 (AMD ATHLON 64 3200+@2511mhz)

• randomperson = 1208.27 (AMD ATHLON x2 3800+@2400mhz)

• Ketxxx = 1140.97 (A64 3200+ @ 2GHz - Winchester)

• Canuto = 1112.11 (Pentium D 930 @ 3300mhz)

• Casheti = 1037.36 (Pentium D 920@2800.90mhz)

• cdawall = 1036.22 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz)

• W2hCYK = 1011.54 (P4 Prescott@2400mhz)

• Polaris573 = 1001.86 (P4 Northwood@3.2GHz)

• MikeLopez = 1000.03 (AMD 3400 (S754))

• Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ)

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SCIENCEMARK 2.0 RESULTS 08/09/2006 BY CPU TYPE USED:
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INTEL CONROE CLUB:
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• Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)

• MikeLopez = 1700.24 (via 7x mult. X 428mhz FSB - Intel Core2Duo E6300@2996mhz)

• gri3f = 1391.08 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@ stock oem mhz)

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GROUPING Average Score = 1757.76
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AMD OPTERON CLUB:
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• Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)

• Dj Dn = 1461.97 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)

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GROUPING Average Score = 1499.95
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INTEL PENTIUM D930 CLUB:
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• Tigger69 = 1431.51 (Pentium D930@4385mhz)

• Canuto = 1112.11 (Pentium D 930 @ 3300mhz)

• Casheti = 1037.36 (Pentium D 920@2800.90mhz)

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GROUPING Average Score = 1193.66
=================================================

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INTEL PENTIUM 4 (Northwood & Prescott) CLUB:
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• W2hCYK = 1011.54 (P4 Prescott@2400mhz)

• Polaris573 = 1001.86 (P4 Northwood@3.2GHz)

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GROUPING Average Score = 1006.57
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"CLUB AMD X2" (dualcore CPU's only):
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• Alec§taar = 1440.60 (AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+/11x X 257mhz FSB/CPU@2827.2 & RAM@201.9/200)

• g12rxz = 1437.66 (AMD Athlon 64x2 n4200+ @ 2.6ghz o/c)

• JNT Raptor = 1383.82 (AMD ATHLON x2 3800+@2703mhz)

• randomperson = 1208.27 (AMD ATHLON x2 3800+@2400mhz)

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GROUPING Average Score = 1367.59
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"CLUB AMD" (non-dualcore CPU's only)
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• 33 = 1395.99 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ)

• Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz)

• Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)

• pt = 1256.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz)

• X800 = 1235.77 (AMD ATHLON 64 3200+@2511mhz)

• Ketxxx = 1140.97 (A64 3200+ @ 2GHz - Winchester)

• cdawall = 1036.22 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz)

• MikeLopez = 1000.03 (AMD 3400 (S754))

• Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ)

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GROUPING Average Score = 1049.65
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APK

 

[Alec§taar]

Achilles from the film TROY, said it best:

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

Tigger69:

I'm ahead of you, by "the whole 9 yards"... 9++ solid points.

• Alec§taar = 1440.60 (AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+/11x X 257mhz FSB/CPU@2827.2mhz & RAM@202/200mhz)

• Tigger69 = 1431.51 (Pentium D930@4385mhz)

A literal 1% margin - can you get to it & pass it, is the question...

I guess you gave it your best shot @ this point Tigger69, & in the end, your camel's back gave out first...

I say that, because you started this thread (testing memory bandwidths, etc.):

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=15523

On a guess? AMD rigs won't do as well in THAT test - here is possibly where your greater mhz will "save the day" for you, vs. AMD rigs... memory bandwidth!



My progress thusfar, thru the tests & various overclocking permutations, has been:

1390.21 -> 1399.79 -> 1401.20 -> 1414.29 -> 1423.57 -> 1426.43 -> 1428.17 -> 1431.58 -> 1438.09 -> 1440.60

TOTAL OF POINTS GAINED = 50.39

& 3.5% overall between my high & low marks...

+ 1% approxmately gained overall/on average per attempt in 10 tries thusfar...

& 5 points-per-attempt average gained in 10 tries thusfar!

Are we @ the stage where the "straws will break the camels' backs"?

(Let's find out - go for it!)

I.E.-> Let's see if that Pentium D 930 can (as someone so eloquently put it in another thread, lol) can "spank" my score & my AMD DualCore unit, now!...

Ah, & that "someone" lol, was CASHETI:

Lol, I know YOU get pwned by tigger and his Pentium D 930

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=131178#post131178

Well now... will wonders NEVER cease! lol...

APK

P.S.=> What I like about AMD cpu's & makes me glad I came back to them?

LDT/HTT, the single UNIFIED & highly overclockable (yet cool running) bus controller & memory controller front-side bus.

This test illustrates a point & GOOD comparison between Intel & AMD cpu's:

This test results simply shows that a fairly similar class Intel-based CPU like Tigger69's has to do around 40% more CPU work (4385 mhz cpu), in order to do the same amount of work my less-mhz (2827.2 mhz CPU clock here) AMD cpu does!

AMD & their HTT/LDT architecture, vs. Northbridge/Southbridge Intel stuff (I use Intel too, P4 3.2ghz here in 2nd system) is GOOD stuff, glad I am back on it! apk

 

[Casheti]

It just keeps on going...

 

[Deleted member 24505]

maybe your amd spanks mine lol,but we ALL get spanked by them there connies.and they are still using a north/south bridge arrangement.and i'm sure i read somewhere that the memory latency on a connie is less than it is on an amd with the mem controller on the die.so obviously intel is doing something right.

well done anyway mate. ,without h20 i dont think i am gonna get any higher than i did.

i will be having a connie by the end of this year tho'.what with amd screwing up ati and not seeming to have an answer to the mighty connie,i dont think i will be going back to amd for a while.

 

[Ketxxx]

************************************************
SCIENCEMARK 2.0 RESULTS 08/09/2006 BY SCORE ONLY:
************************************************

---------------------------------------------------------------
"CLUB AMD" (non-dualcore CPU's only)
---------------------------------------------------------------

• 33 = 1395.99 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2856MHZ)

• Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2700mhz)

• Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)

• pt = 1256.23 (AMD ATLHON 64 3000+@2500mhz)

• X800 = 1235.77 (AMD ATHLON 64 3200+@2511mhz)

• Ketxxx = 1140.97 (A64 3200+ @ 2GHz - Winchester)

• cdawall = 1036.22 (AMD ATHLON 64 3000+@2440mhz)

• MikeLopez = 1000.03 (AMD 3400 (S754))

• Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLON XP@2340MHZ)

=================================================
GROUPING Average Score = 1049.65
=================================================

As I'm slipping down here I thought I would do a quick SCM2 run with my Winchester at a flat 2.5GHz without any particular tweaks, so without anymore rambling here is my 2.5GHz score;

and yes, I'm as puzzled as you are as to why my primordia result has gone down 200pts

 

[Alec§taar]

maybe your amd spanks mine

Yea, on a benchmark where right around where YOUR system & mine landed? There are 1% tolerances/variations between scores... maybe "tightest" toughest section in fact.

(There we no "spankings", lol... It was CLOSE! I just wanted to bring up what Casheti wrote above is all!)

lol,but we ALL get spanked by them there connies.and they are still using a north/south bridge arrangement.

Probably, but "doing it right" @ last.

and i'm sure i read somewhere that the memory latency on a connie is less than it is on an amd with the mem controller on the die.so obviously intel is doing something right.

Oh, probably... I wouldn't doubt it, especially in the CONROE.

well done anyway mate. ,without h20 i dont think i am gonna get any higher than i did.

I think I am @ the "end-of-my-rope" (@ limit) too here... whew, narrow victory margin!

i will be having a connie by the end of this year tho'.what with amd screwing up ati and not seeming to have an answer to the mighty connie,i dont think i will be going back to amd for a while.

Next system I get, unless AMD can REALLY "pull a rabbit outta their engineering hats" will be a CONROE if what we've been seeing here & in other tests keeps up!



* I won't get an ENTIRELY new system here, until 2009 or so...

APK

 

[cdawall]

As I'm slipping down here I thought I would do a quick SCM2 run with my Winchester at a flat 2.5GHz without any particular tweaks, so without anymore rambling here is my 2.5GHz score;

and yes, I'm as puzzled as you are as to why my primordia result has gone down 200pts

mine went down to as i oc'd must be somthing funny w/ the program

 

[Ketxxx]

must be. so those who suffer from that anomaly probably should have 100-150pts added to make up for the benchmarks oddness. not that 1300pts is anything to really sniff at with just 2.5GHz under the hood.

 

[Alec§taar]

must be. so those who suffer from that anomaly probably should have 100-150pts added to make up for the benchmarks oddness. not that 1300pts is anything to really sniff at with just 2.5GHz under the hood.

I had it happen to me too, especially @ 12x o/c's multiplier usage vs. 11x... part of WHY I went back to 11x (and, the fact I got "higher mhz ROI on RAM" via CPU-z).

APK

P.S.=> The app needs work though, imo, in ONLY 1 real regard:

It lacks error trapping, I am ALMOST convinced of it...

E.G.-> A "perfectly" written Win32 app should NEVER crash out, completely. Still, it IS what is part of why I and others thought it (and the wild "super-results" or endless loops seen as well) as a "stability-test" feature...

Anyhow - What stops that in WELL DONE programs?

Err handlers, custom ones (better than typical built-into-compiler structured error handlers imo, because they can account for SPECIFICS found in the way of errors)...

I.E.-> With GOOD errtraps? They could STILL have this "stability-test" type feature, albeit w/ a message stating "you are potentially unstable" rather than disappearing from the screen (I have seen this TOO), &/or getting "WILD" results.

Stuff like VB6 "On Error GoTo/Resume Next" &/or Delphi "Try-Catch-Except/Finally", OR ASP.NET/VB.NET "Try-Catch"!

Earlier on in this thread?

We were thinking about writing the coders of it, in regards to some of the anomalies we've witnessed in it (some like MY & cdawall's "super-results" we saw, this one you speak of (though this? well, less likely imo to be an error))!

ALL to make a BETTER "Science Mark 3.0"...

WRITE THEM HERE->

http://www.sciencemark.org/

(I can't, I have javascript PERMANENTLY disabled in my web browsers (Opera AND IE))... apk

 

[cdawall]

im tellin yah w/ good ram ill be at your heels oh and i think i am going to the dark side getting an old intel p4 3ghz s478 (its free) any hints/tips for oc'ing it im going to try to beat my amds score
it uses a msi s478 mobo
512mb ddr400 (super talent or some bs like that)
p4 3ghz (i think)
no hdd yet (maybe if i play my cards right another maxtor ata133 like i have)
1 cheap cdrw
enermax case
enermax 380watt psu

 

[pt]

im tellin yah w/ good ram ill be at your heels oh and i think i am going to the dark side getting an old intel p4 3ghz s478 (its free) any hints/tips for oc'ing it im going to try to beat my amds score
it uses a msi s478 mobo
512mb ddr400 (super talent or some bs like that)
p4 3ghz (i think)
no hdd yet (maybe if i play my cards right another maxtor ata133 like i have)
1 cheap cdrw
enermax case
enermax 380watt psu

I think your AMD smokes that INTEL in a second, and if it's a Prescott, the temps will be high
But if it's free, keep it, and use it as a second computer, for storage or server

 

[Alec§taar]

Current Standings

Reposted Below & Updated...

Apk

 

[gR3iF]

my freinds pc

 

[Alec§taar]

Current Updated Standings

Reposting Update Chart Below (w/ Canuto's New Data)...

Apk

 

[Canuto]

Well i was able to push my system a little farther and here are the scores at 3510Mhz...

I hope i can on pushing it

I just can't wait to see pt's new scores now that he has that aero engine 2