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Seagate sudden death syndrome..........

Discussion in 'Storage' started by Mighty Boosh, Sep 29, 2012.

  1. EiSFX

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    the problem with once taking the cover off the HDD is 1 you let dust get in to the HDD its self you can put it back together and have it working again ONLY if you make sure there is no dust or anything in the HDD and you have to torque the screws down to the exact spec for your certain HDD yes the screws that hold down the HDD top plate are torqued to an exact amount

    like by watching this video will show you
    Here's one reason to never take your hard driv...

    But by following this video if you do it right you can take the cover off and on if done right it will still work
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    He already posted the below comment, indicating the drive had a fatal head crash and probably lots of black dust already spinning around in the drive. Opening it, or dropping in the garbage disposal would yeild the same result.

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    Yes i know it dead but just stating that if you have the proper tools your self taking the cover off the HDD will not always instantly make the drive not work
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    I don't disagree with that. After any dust has settled on the platters or head, it probably wouldn't last very long. I have a few older hard drives that I'll probably never use, it's tempting to see how long one really would last ;)
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    maby if you have a level 4 clean room and a bio-hazard suite :banghead:
    me shooting you in the head MAY not instantly kill you
    sounds like the drive is junk time to toss it
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    ive seen HDDs window modded without clean rooms
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    Since you have it open, you could take a really powerful magnifying glass and read all the bits on the platters, convert it all to hex and look at it in a hex editor.

    If that seems like to much work, just throw it away.
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    polarities and induction at its best LMAO
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    You're just plain cruel.
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    sad part is I am betting it was just the drive controller but now that hes gone a listened to the n00bs on this board its pretty much toast and people wonder why I tell other members to shut the frack up
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    Even if he hadn't opened it up, the outcome would be the same. Lost bits... no more bytes.
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    It's been awhile since I've looked into HDDs. Do any still use landing zones for the heads (as opposed to full head retraction)? If so, the worn area could have been a landing zone and it was just the controller board that went bad. Cracking the lid open is always last on the list of things to try.

    Mute point now, however.
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    Moot, I think you meant. And yes, if it's already self-destructed, spinning little bits of metal throughout the HDD, then any data recovery will be tough (perhaps not impossible though).

    I was curious about landing zone, so looked it up...

    From Wiki:

    And here: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/mbsys/bios/set/ideLanding-c.html

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    Yes, you are right. Typing faster than thinking gets me every time.
    In this case, however, I had no more to say so "mute" works pretty well too. :D

    Making a little negative pressure "clean box" for playing with HDDs would be a fun little project.
    You could probably use a vacuum and some Heppa filters and it might work sufficiently.
    Just pondering.
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    I've torn apart many hard drives (I like the magnets!). In some, there has been a small pouch of non-woven filter type materials leading to an opening... so I think they are supposed to breath, and it appears the moving layer of air on the platter acts as a fan. (perhaps for cooling?)

    Just made me think of one of Tesla's inventions, a motor that used the same prinicple in reverse.

    Edit... what you describe sounds a lot like a sand blasting enclosure, without the sand blasting of course.
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    Yes. Cut a couple of holes and tightly glue some rubber gloves so you can reach in.
    You would want to clean any tools that would be used, and pressurize the box before opening the drive, but it should work reasonably well.
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    But they didnt just do it anywhere either. It has to be clean.
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    well of course, particulate level has to be under a certain percentage or under a certain density per square inch

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