Should I Get a 8800GT or a HD3870?

[Skrabrug]

at this stage i just think its a matter of preference : /

they both seem to be pretty even.. some good points some bad points.
but yeah.. all a matter of preference.

 

[tkpenalty]

lol.... still neck and neck.

 

[candle_86]

8800GT for sure

Faster card overall, benchmarks in games prove that, the HD3870 = HD2900XT just less expensive and that had trouble beating the 8800GTS So I day get the 8800GT

 

[cooler]

tkpenalty you will get 8800gt no matter what we say
(this thread has no point,we already know the answer :shadedshu )

 

[yogurt_21]

I voted 8800gt because it's faster, runs better with aa on and one of the mosfets is crooked on the 3870. lol

 

[jimbo405]

3870 is better more futureproof.

 

[tkpenalty]

3870 is better more futureproof.

??? Why

 

[erocker]

He's probablly thinking PCI-E 2.0. Did you order the GT yet?

 

[tkpenalty]

yep it was already coming before i made the thread this was a farce.

 

[cooler]

yep it was already coming before i made the thread this was a farce.

8800 does win
this make all people who vote hd3870 a loser ( including me )

 

[Scrizz]

too bad he didn't get an HD3890


lol j/k

 

[strick94u]

This thread is best ever
I would just get the blue one I heard it breaks less

 

[strick94u]

3870 is better more futureproof.

Becuase in the future there will be Robots

 

[Wile E]

The cooler is one thing that kills that video card and another is the rush of nvidia they rushed drivers with OBVIOUS cheats just to beat ATI in crysis and the whole video card semed rushed to come in better time than ATI/AMD from the launch they where to few video cards even now you can;t find one in my country also the launch was so rushed that some batches where faulty and the fairly poor quality of the video card from some manufacturers is the Nvidia fault for having a more expensive GPU than ATI/AMD and for that they had to reduce quality on the cooler on the capacitors and from fudzilla.com i heard that Nvidia suggests to parteners to cut costs even more if they want to compete with the AMD/ATI agressive pricing.
That 3850 is just a pain in the ass for Nvidia very cheap and easily overcloked to 3870 performance.
If you look at the referance PCB of the 8800GT and the referance PCB of the 3870 you imedialty see the poor quality components on the 8800GT one of the biggest being the cooler and the capacitors.
What gigabyte did with this change is huge for 8800GT but minor for 3870 wich already had good components on it.
ABout AA on ATI's i heard about some shader based AA that was to be implemented but no games today support it and because AMD/ATI is in deep sh.. now they don;t have the money to support developers like Nvidia.
There where somethign else that not even now is used tesselation and virtualization both supported by ATI from the HD2900XT and they got really screwed by microsoft that at first said that DX10 hardware must have virtualization but when Nvidia failed to make it happen because hardware limitations DX10 compatible meant what nvidia got and has now and DX10.1 means what ATI has now and had for a long time but no games use it.
It's no wonder Nvidia don't want to include features like tesselation and virtualization in theyr new generation because that means supporting developers in making games that will work perfectly on ATI/amd hardware so as long as AMD don't have money to support them Nvidia is happy holding them back from using features like that.

nVidia had a bad batch of 8800GT's. That far from proves a lack of reliability. Some 1950Pros suffered the same fate. Defects and reliability are 2 different matters entirely. Neither the 3870 or the 8800GT have been around long enough to decide reliability. I've seen plenty of cards from both camps have to be rma'd.

As far as people complaining about hitting 80C+, my X1800XT did just that, and my 2900 comes damn close at 76C. My Palit 8800GT tops out at 59C.

As far as tesselation and virtualization, these are 2 features I would love to see being supported. But the fact of the matter is, they currently aren't. "What ifs" don't change the fact that all current games are faster on an 8800GT.

People can cry foul all they want. It doesn't matter to the end user why the 8800 is faster, all that matters is that it is.

 

[wolf]

that it is.

 

[tkpenalty]

nVidia had a bad batch of 8800GT's. That far from proves a lack of reliability. Some 1950Pros suffered the same fate. Defects and reliability are 2 different matters entirely. Neither the 3870 or the 8800GT have been around long enough to decide reliability. I've seen plenty of cards from both camps have to be rma'd.

As far as people complaining about hitting 80C+, my X1800XT did just that, and my 2900 comes damn close at 76C. My Palit 8800GT tops out at 59C.

As far as tesselation and virtualization, these are 2 features I would love to see being supported. But the fact of the matter is, they currently aren't. "What ifs" don't change the fact that all current games are faster on an 8800GT.

People can cry foul all they want. It doesn't matter to the end user why the 8800 is faster, all that matters is that it is.

Wile E i told him about the bad batch already

 

[Wile E]

Wile E i told him about the bad batch already

I know, but not mentioning it kinda made my point seem less than effective. lol.

 

[papubhai]

go with 3870 better option in terms of price and will be better in newer games

 

[tkpenalty]

My my do people know how to read

 

[Duxx]

Got my vote in just in time!

/sarcasmoff

 

[jimbo405]

??? Why

dx 10.1 pixel shader 4.1.

 

[candle_86]

go with 3870 better option in terms of price and will be better in newer games

really just how is thats?

the 320 stream processors or the the heat it puts off?

lets be real and blunt here, ATI/AMD lost, and they lost hard.

ATI pushed the x1900XTX line out, Nvidia didnt do much since the NV40. Look at NV40 compared to G71, some optimations here and there but all in all the 7900GTX could have been called a 6950Ultra and it would meant the same thing. Nvidia set there sites on the prize and doing what they know best. ATI built the R520 which failed to compete and was late to market and responded with the R580 which didnt hold up to the G71 so they made the R580+

That whole time Nvidia spent working on G80. G70 as we know it is NV47 and guess what that makes it very close to NV40.

ATI did the whole DX thing back in 2002, Nvidia got cut from the planning stages and had to guess to get a card to market before 2004. Look at it this way, Nvidia made a mistake once, its called NV25 and its how ATI caught them, and guess what ATI/AMD just did it with R600 by spending all there time on the R500 line of GPU's and Nvidia servered them notice that this is still Nvidias ball game, you play by there rules or you loose.

 

[jimbo405]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...=3870&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1194053242087

visiontek 3870 lifetime warranty 214$

might be sold out but lets me add it to cart.

 

[jimbo405]

really just how is thats?

the 320 stream processors or the the heat it puts off?

lets be real and blunt here, ATI/AMD lost, and they lost hard.

ATI pushed the x1900XTX line out, Nvidia didnt do much since the NV40. Look at NV40 compared to G71, some optimations here and there but all in all the 7900GTX could have been called a 6950Ultra and it would meant the same thing. Nvidia set there sites on the prize and doing what they know best. ATI built the R520 which failed to compete and was late to market and responded with the R580 which didnt hold up to the G71 so they made the R580+

That whole time Nvidia spent working on G80. G70 as we know it is NV47 and guess what that makes it very close to NV40.

ATI did the whole DX thing back in 2002, Nvidia got cut from the planning stages and had to guess to get a card to market before 2004. Look at it this way, Nvidia made a mistake once, its called NV25 and its how ATI caught them, and guess what ATI/AMD just did it with R600 by spending all there time on the R500 line of GPU's and Nvidia servered them notice that this is still Nvidias ball game, you play by there rules or you loose.

lol seriously stop talking iam a 8800 gt 512 mb owner myself and you are full of shit and never used a r670 before just stfu.

its a good card.

 

[tkpenalty]

I'll ask for a lock if you guys don't smart up. I said, i will not take other options either then those two. How hard is that to explain???