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Should I stay with the i7-4770k or go for the Haswell Refresh

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  1. Kuroneko

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    I'm building a new computer this summer, so I was wondering... Check out my original build/thread here: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/t...-build-a-new-computer-over-the-summer.200416/

    Since the new Haswell refresh is now on Newegg, which processor would you recommend me to get? If you want the Newegg link, here are all of them:
    http://www.newegg.com/New-Intel-s-4...Index-_-E0-_-Intel&et_cid=7638&et_rid=9436527

    I was thinking that the i7-4790 would be the best, but I'm still not sure whether or not I should just stick with the 4770k or something else.



    Any ideas?
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    The 4790 isn't unlocked like the 4770K. So if you want easy overclocking, get the 4770K.
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    Stay with what you have
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    The refresh is going to replace the current lineup but will not offer much in terms of performance differences except in overclocking and temps. I would stick with what you have.
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    I kind of expected that. Considering the 4790 doesn't have much of an overclocking ability, I would rather stay with the 4770k. I could just overclock it to make up for the small amount performance possibly lost and more. Thanks for the advice guys. I appreciate it.
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    4790k is due in the summer dude. check out benchmarks then to help make up your mind.
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    Well you will want the 4790k (Devils Canyon, not out yet) if you were going to get a 4770k originally. The 4790 is the refresh of the 4770, not 4770k.
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    I'd do the same thing. +1 for you dude :D
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    Ah! I was wondering if there was going to be an unlocked version. Thank you. I'll keep that in mind when I get the money to build.

    I want to thank everyone else who posted! You have my gratitude.
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    Get the 4790k if you don't have a 4770k already.
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    Oh I mis-interpreted what you meant, I thought you already owned the 4770k. If your buying a new system, definitely wait for the unlocked devils canyon i7 as you will get much better overclocking performance off of it. You just won't really notice a difference clock to clock, it will all be in temps and overclocking levels.
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    Yeah. The fact that the base clock speed is at 4 Ghz makes it awesome. Do you know if it'll cost more than the 4770k or will it be similar?
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    My guess is about the same with maybe a 10-20 dollar difference (Just a rough guess from what ive heard). Intel is really not one to drop the price of anything so they will probably just add this to the lineup with a slight price hike. Of course on a new system if the rumors and what has been seen so far turn out to be true, then it will be way more than worth it for the overclocker. I still remember seeing Sandy-Bridge chips hitting 5ghz and loving it!
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    I hope 4790K can do 5Ghz stable on air every chip :D
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    I'm really looking forward to this, considering this is my first build, this is exciting.

    I heard it can with the included cooler. They have a better thermal paste. However, I'd buy an aftermarket cooler to help mitigate the extra heat that it might produce.
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    You heard where?

    All I saw was Expreview speaking out of his azz that it will be capable of 5ghz air.
    I bet 4.6 -4.8ghz will be more possible.



    btw get at least 2133mhz CL9 ram, 1600mhz will limit it in certain scenarios, not showing its full potential.
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    Do you know a good pair of 8GB sticks that cost roughly the same? I don't mind a $10-$20 dollar difference, but anything more might drive me off.
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    Just remember to factor in the cost of a new motherboard when considering this upgrade - Z87 boards cannot run Haswell refresh CPUs, only Z97 boards will work with them, but Z97 will also run Broadwell CPUs when they come out, so at least it's not a "one-shot-wonder" like Z87. Apparently 4 pins in the 1150 socket are different for Z97, making them incompatible with original Haswell CPUs. The 4790K should be out June 2nd, along with a boatload of new Z97 boards, so it's worth the wait for 2 or 3 weeks to finally get a CPU that overclocks past 4.5 without melting down.
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    wrong Z87 will support it, Intel ME firmware bios update. My z87-delux already supports it if I wanted to buy 4790k.


    Broadwell too by the looks of it, same procedure with IMEI firmware update.

    pay attention what this Intel CEO/Rep says and this was back in September 2013 no sign of z97 yet.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KeDtXucTwRI#t=23

    Broadwell is going to enable 2 types of devices; "One you can plug the chip directly into existing systems (z87, etc) and Second we will brand new systems (z97, etc).."
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    i hope intel do not cripple them like ivy and haswell again :(

    might get 6 with water then :D
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    Agreed, I hope they stop with the whole cheap out on the TIM from this point forward because if we are paying that much for a CPU it should not be limited because of a poor quality thermal compound.

    If all these chips hit 5ghz on air, I will be shocked to be honest!
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    I heard that this new refresh will include better thermal compound and better heat management, so it could be possible. I don't know if it'll work using the stock cooler... dunno.

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