Socket A Club

[Cuzza]

Melvis you should hook yourself up a 2400+, I got mine on ebay, $10 imported from Hong Kong, those chinese have thousands of them.

 

[Melvis]

Melvis you should hook yourself up a 2400+, I got mine on ebay, $10 imported from Hong Kong, those chinese have thousands of them.

Yea i have looked into getting a 2400+ for this old comp ages ago since it was the max the Mobo could handle, but it was still selling for a high price, i saw a 3200+ sell for almost $200 back then on ebay, so i didn't bother and upgraded my 939 machine instead.

One day i will

What does your system bench?

 

[Cuzza]

only just got it installed in a case yesterday, haven't benched it. don't really plan to either

 

[Melvis]

only just got it installed in a case yesterday, haven't benched it. don't really plan to either

Fair enough, i only run 3DMark2001SE on this old machine since it cant realy handle much more, and its a small program, like 50MB to download and 15mins to run it, and ya done.

I just realized that my FX5700 is 128mb not 256mb

 

[eidairaman1]

look at the date codes of your CPUs to determine if they are unlocked. For 1 only Mobility SKT A parts are unlocked after Week 39 of 2003, Desktop SKT A parts are locked during/after that week.

http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e24.html

If it was possible Id have another Unlocked 3200+ lying around, Unfortunately they were going for a pretty Quarter, so I bought 2 2500+ (Desktop and Mobility)

 

[p_o_s_pc]

i have noticed that with the AXP that when the settings are 12.5x176@1.67v it idles at 52c but when i get it to 10.5x210@1.67v idle is 77c is that right? should it do that?anyone else notice that?

 

[eidairaman1]

you have a 2100 Right? because for 1 Palmino/TBreds have a thin layer of metal where the barton is thicker, thus doesnt run as hot. I suggest you reseat the heatsink using quality thermal compound.

 

[Melvis]

i have noticed that with the AXP that when the settings are 12.5x176@1.67v it idles at 52c but when i get it to 10.5x210@1.67v idle is 77c is that right? should it do that?anyone else notice that?

Yea that's not right at all, i have a 2100 and it idles at around 34c and tops out around 40c, but i have changed the cooler to a AMD copper base cooler and that has brought my temps down from 38c idle and 45c load and my CPU has a mild OC to make the system run stable.

And make sure you put a very thin layer of thermal paste, to much and the temps will still show high as i have found out.

 

[Jack-O-Bytes]

I recomend the Zalman Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu. I have one like it but with the aluminium bit in the middle cooling my athlon xp 3200+ and it idles at 31c and on 100% use it is 37c. It is a great cooler.

 

[Cuzza]

I have used those Zalman coolers on several Socket A machines. they are excellent

 

[p_o_s_pc]

Yea that's not right at all, i have a 2100 and it idles at around 34c and tops out around 40c, but i have changed the cooler to a AMD copper base cooler and that has brought my temps down from 38c idle and 45c load and my CPU has a mild OC to make the system run stable.

And make sure you put a very thin layer of thermal paste, to much and the temps will still show high as i have found out.

i am using a copper base AMD cooler and it didn't help much...i have reseated it many times and still no good...

 

[suraswami]

i have noticed that with the AXP that when the settings are 12.5x176@1.67v it idles at 52c but when i get it to 10.5x210@1.67v idle is 77c is that right? should it do that?anyone else notice that?

Is it a Barton core? If so I say its right. My FIL's Barton XP 3000 idles at 52C and load is around 60C, upgraded from Thoroughbred Sempron 2500 which was also idling @ 48/49C and it has half the cache. This one has a CoolerMaster copper core and aluminum fin one and one of the best coolers for Socket A and very quiet too.

my old AXP Mobile 2400 @ 2.4Ghz and 1.65V also idles at 52C. This guy has full copper TT silenboost cooler (may be try this cooler).

Those guys run hot.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

yes it is Barton core. My Thoroughbred Sempron 2500 (i also have one)idles 42c@1.65v@2.1ghz loads at 60c

 

[Melvis]

i am using a copper base AMD cooler and it didn't help much...i have reseated it many times and still no good...

O ok gezzz Whats the fan speed? and do you live in a hot climate?

I will have to check what temps my m8s 3200+ Barton idles at to see if there is a massive difference. Im sure it idled under 40c.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

O ok gezzz Whats the fan speed? and do you live in a hot climate?

I will have to check what temps my m8s 3200+ Barton idles at to see if there is a massive difference. Im sure it idled under 40c.

100% don't live in hot climate and the AC is working overtime so its around 70f in here

 

[Melvis]

100% don't live in hot climate and the AC is working overtime so its around 70f in here

Weird

 

[p_o_s_pc]

Weird

not really worried about it right now. I am using my Sempron 2500+ with the same HSF and idle 48c load around 54-61c even overclocked. I see it as 2.2ghz sempron is about equal to a 2.2ghz AXP when it comes to crunching.I will get better cooler for it later on. unless someone can assure me that is a safe temp

 

[aCid888*]

I have a few Socket A systems laying around...

Duron "Morgan" 1.3GHz @ 1.4xGHz
Ahtlon XP "Thorton" 2400+
Ahtlon XP "Thorton" 2600+
Athlon XP "Barton" 3200+

No idea why I keep them around to be honest.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

put them to crunching or send them to someone that will if you don't want to keep them. (PM me if you want to get some Socket A stuff out of the way i maybe willing to take some of it)

you have a 2100 Right? because for 1 Palmino/TBreds have a thin layer of metal where the barton is thicker, thus doesnt run as hot. I suggest you reseat the heatsink using quality thermal compound.

I have a AXP 3000+ Barton I have reseated many times. A few times using cheap paste other times using MX2

 

[eidairaman1]

only time my CPU would reach 50-60 Degrees was with the stock cooler, I replaced the fan as a temporary fix which worked but the SOB was like a jet engine.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

how do you guys feel about the Aerocool High tower 101 JR you think you has what it takes to cool a overclocked Barton?http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...entium_4_Athlon_XP_AMD_64_.html?tl=g48c369s50

 

[eidairaman1]

shouldnt be a problem using that, just check clearances, id say its more about cooling the NB/SB and VRMs/Mosfets for a NF2 based motherboard, even the ram Mosfets

 

[p_o_s_pc]

shouldnt be a problem using that, just check clearances, id say its more about cooling the NB/SB and VRMs/Mosfets for a NF2 based motherboard, even the ram Mosfets

The NB has fan blowing on the heatsink and mosfets the ram isn't overvolted so they don't get vary hot.The SB I am going to put on a small heatsink or some ramsinks what everone i find laying around first but i may put some ram sinks on the mosfets anyways just to be sure. I still am considering watercooling. do you think that a dual 120mm rad would cool 2 Socket A CPUs?I am thinking of setting up 2 open rigs side by side and cooling a AXP 3000+@2.3ghz and a Sempron 2500+@2.2ghz with water.also any thoughts on direct die chilling(google it if you don't know what it is)

 

[eidairaman1]

I'm not sure about water cooling setups but air cooling, a TR SI-97/TT Big Typhoon kept the cpu pretty cool as long as ambient temps are ideal; that's the thing with any air cooler. Any who I've been trying to push my AXP-M 2500+ beyond 2.2GHz and it wont budge(BSODs even with volts cranked beyond desktop standard). The CPU stays cool but the System Temp (NB) seems to get pretty warm, I just need something to cool all those components I talked about earlier.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

the only problem with going air is its vary hard to find a cooler for Socket A that is still being sold. But also with Water both boards would have to have holes around the socket and the one i am looking to get doesn't