STALKER weapon balance mod

[Ketxxx]

could there be something in the ammo's file that dictates which weapons will use it?

Nope. Tried that theory when I made it so the Groza could use 9mm handgun ammo, it should be the slightly bigger submachinegun calibre, but I stuck with 9mm handgun ammo just so that ammo type was more useful.

 

[Heldelance]

Maybe there's a maximum amount of ammunition types that can be used by a gun?
As far as I know, weapons only have a maximum of 3 ammo types don't they? Groza uses 9MM and I think there's 2 types of that, and then there's the grenades. Shotguns have 3 types as well I think, slug shot, bird shot, and flechette. Maybe there's something in one of the files that'll have something to do with that.

 

[Ketxxx]

Dunno. I could try using just one shotty ammo type. There will still be the issue of getting the right animations and sound FX when using the shotty ammo with the FN F2000 though..

 

[Heldelance]

Make it an attachment, I just realized that you were trying to make the gun itself use shotty shells. The FN2000 is a 5.56mm weapon with an underslung grenade launcher (not fixed, it's a modular weapon system). Maybe there's a way you can make a shotgun attachment to it.

 

[Ketxxx]

Not quite, I was going to use the grenade lanucher attachment to also fire shotty shells.

 

[bassmasta]

make a new attachment? just take the launcher and hide a pistol in it so it looks like an under-barrel shotgun

 

[Ketxxx]

Not investigated making new attachments, and methinks its probably not that easy to make a brand new attachment.

 

[Ketxxx]

Make it an attachment, I just realized that you were trying to make the gun itself use shotty shells. The FN2000 is a 5.56mm weapon with an underslung grenade launcher (not fixed, it's a modular weapon system). Maybe there's a way you can make a shotgun attachment to it.

How did the quest go for findin some ppl on those forums?

 

[Heldelance]

I would've loved to have said the hunt had turned up some good candidates. Turns out there ain't much out there after all (mind you I haven't posted in those forums since months ago.)

 

[Ketxxx]

Nuts.. looks like the grand scale mod will have to be left on hold for now then.

 

[Ketxxx]

How does this look for what the first trader sells? Also if anyone can find out how or do it for me, it would be great for someone to edit the first trader file to the details of this list, its just not playing nice for me and I'm about ready to start knawing my own hand off.

1st Trader: Price: NO of: Trader buy:

Abakan 5000 x2 All sell for half of buy
Enfield 8000 x2
Enfield (balance) 10,000 x1
AK74 4000 x2
AK74SU 3000 x2
MP5A5 2500 x2
Sawnoff BM16 1000 x2
TOZ 34 2000 x2
Makarov PM 1000 x2
Makarov PB 1000 x2
Fort 12 1500 x2
Fort 15 1800 x1
Walther P99 2250 x2
Walther P99 (9mm) 2800 x1

Attachments sold:

VOG 25 grenade launcher 1500 x3
PSO-1 scope 800 x3
Silencer 500 x3

Ammo sold:

5.45x39 fmj 350 x500
5.45x39 ap 500 x500
vog-25 300 x20
vog-25p 400 x20
12x70 buckshot 100 x200
12x76 zhekan 200 x200
12x76 dart 275 x200
5.56x45 ss190 400 x500
5.56x45 ap 550 x500
9x19 fmj 140 x200
9x19 pbp 180 x200
9x18 fmj 110 x200
9x18 pmm 150 x200

Armour sold:

Leather jacket 2000 x2
Bandit jacket 3000 x2
Merc suit 5000 x2
Monolith suit 9000 x2
Military suit 12,000 x2
STALKER suit 20,000 x2

Misc:

Medkit 150 x10
Army medkit 250 x10
Scientific medkit 400 x10
Bandages 40 x50
Antirad 200 x10
Vodka 100 x10
Bread 50 x20
Sausage 50 x20
Tinned food 100 x20

 

[Heldelance]

Download another mod and check it from that. They should have it there.

 

[Ketxxx]

No need, finally started getting somewhere with the trader files, its INSANE that nobody has made a real balance mod for STALKER.

 

[bassmasta]

it's because balance mods are for games that need to be balanced. stalker is so life-like as it is that most people can't handle it. trust me, stalker's combat system is more realistic than people would think

 

[Random Murderer]

this may cause me to reinstall stalker...

 

[Ketxxx]

it's because balance mods are for games that need to be balanced. stalker is so life-like as it is that most people can't handle it. trust me, stalker's combat system is more realistic than people would think

Its not balanced. Whats realistic and balanced about being able to grab the best weapons from the first trader? (a'la all trader mods) people just throw everything in with no regard to balance and gameplay.

 

[bassmasta]

no, I meant to say that the origional game was the most balanced i've ever seen.

 

[Ketxxx]

FYI there will be no trader balancing I'm afraid people. I figured out what does what but its retarded completely. Allow me to give an example;

ammo_11.43x23_hydro =10,0.2

Now, the first is obvious, the name of the ammo and calibre. "10" refers to how many of this ammo will be sold, in this case 20x10 = 200. So 200 units will be available from the trader. "0.2" refers to how much this ammo will cost, as in the value is 0.2 of 1. 1 being 100%, and anything over 1 being a price increase. Now here is where it gets fucked up and so retarded I want to fucking kill the braindead morons that created STALKER. "10,0.2" should mean 200 units and each unit sells for around 400 something like that. Instead STALKER fucks it up somehow and instead of 200 units @ 400 or so it changes units to like 90 and each unit of 20 sells for like 1600 That is why there will be no trader balancing.

 

[bassmasta]

wow. If I came across something like that, I'd reinstall windows and delete direct x forever. I thanked you to cheer you up.

 

[Ketxxx]

*hugs bassmasta* (in a manly non-gay way) that cheered me up in fact it cheered me up enough to have a real stab at sorting the ammo count\price issue out, it was a pain in the arse as the 1.0004 patch introduces some real funkyness with trader files, but I managed to fix it! So that means trader balancing is now BACK ON! and more to the point, all trader files have been balanced, prices adjusted and only select equipment is available from each trader. Only one out of the 6 traders sells everything - and at reduced prices to boot about the only things all traders have in common is how much they will buy stuff off you for and all traders sell all types of ammo. Its now also possible to sell much more to STALKERS, some even at higher prices than what traders will give you (basically because I figure in the field, STALKERS are willing to pay more as all weapons and equipment is OSP). Even though its not a direct "buddy" relationship, selling upgraded weapons and ammo to fellow STALKERS can come in very handy, say, your suddenly attacked by mutants while talking to a fellow STALKER, what would you rather he have? an AK74 and Makarov PM, or a LR300ML and Sig 220?

Tip: After selling upgraded stuff to STALKERs they will DROP their old equipment, ideal for picking up and selling to another nearby STALKER who may not have as much money, but be able to afford the discarded weapons.

The mod isnt quite ready for release yet, but this is just an advanced notice, if people are finding it too easy to buy weapons due to being able to make money too easily, or if anyone feels weapon prices or armour are too expensive \ cheap, tell me which weapon \ armour and tell me what you think the price should be

 

[Ketxxx]

Beta 2.4. See readme in zip archive for details.

 

[bassmasta]

just for the sake of itself, I wanna point out that with 150 kg of carrying capacity, It's far too easy to become a millionaire. I don't know if you took it into account, but 60 kg is coming close to 230 pounds. If I could run around with that on my back, I imagine I'd be rich enough w/out hunting for stuff.

 

[Ketxxx]

I indeed thought about that, but raised it because most weapons will not net you that much money and when you consider how heavy most guns are, you couldnt pick that much stuff up by default. I could of adjust weapons weight individually, but raising max carry limit was simply much easier

Anyway here is 2.45, not much in the way of changes just a lot of description alterations.

 

[bassmasta]

well, all the same, I love the mod. just wondering though, how exactly would I go about changing the max carrying capacity? tomorrow I'm going to see how much I can safely carry in a backpack {should be around 15% of my body weight for continuous carrying} and set my guy to carry that.

 

[Ketxxx]

You can adjust your carry limit by opening the actor.ltx file in the creatures folder and changing the max_item_mass paramater. You will also need to open the system.ltx file up locate the [inventory] section in the file and change max_weight. Heads up guys a new weapon balance mod will be available soon. Corrected a few weapons which seemed a bit unrealistic, namely the BM16 "sawn-off" and MP5 having to be placed in the second weapon slot. The weapons are small and light enough to be able to be carried as a sidearm in real-life warfare.