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Star Citizen 24 hours left to reserve your ship and alpha test status.

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  1. Iceni

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    This thread can be merged with the existing star citizen thread in 24 hours, or deleted after this time period.


    Star citizen has already reached record crowd funding status, The game is 100% going to be made. And so this is a final role call for anyone wanting to make sure they have access to the alpha and beta tests. After this 24 hour period You will have to wait till the final release of the game to be able to play it. ATM that is estimated at 2+ years. The closed alpha is estimated in 1+ years, and the community that is pledging donations is currently so enthusiastic that the chat board is full, And people are actively choosing ship designs, and seeing new features as they roll out.

    By having a ship pledge you gain a few cool features.

    Firstly you get to watch the updates and tweaks as they happen. New ship designs, star systems, economic choices, Lore, all the cool stuff that will make this game a universe is going to be available.

    Secondly RSI is giving choices, They will show multiple ship designs, multiple systems ect and ask pledger's to vote on what they think they want to see. This has already been show with the community picking the design of the freelancer ship.

    You also get a full copy of the game on release if you have a full pledge with a ship. And you get lifetime insurance on the ship you have on your pledge.


    So down to the real world economics. Why should you pledge.

    Well simply put if you don't pledge your going to miss out on actually getting to see a game in development. It's rare a studio is so open to the gamers. Added to that the studio itself while been new has some of the most well known and trusted names in the space sim scene.

    Your also backing with hundreds of thousands of other people. This is a safe investment. Currently at the time of posting this, the company has raised 4.65 million dollars. They have already met there target. Doubled it in fact. So the investment for the product is safe, they have more money than they thought they would get. So where's the extra going????

    Well this is the real kicker. RSI have plans. BIG plans.

    Imagine a game you can play on a 3d optical headset. SC will support that.

    Imagine a game you can use your tablets as input devices So you can make a cockpit with interactive panel's, Watch your inventory, Have real time power management for you ship. SC will support that.

    Imagine a game where you can use your full flight sim controller and you can bind up every control, SC will support that.

    Imagine a game you want to play on a game pad. SC will support that.

    Imagine a game solely for the PC, Designed to push the hardware you own, Not only today, But for 2-3 years. SC will support that.

    So this game has a lot to offer.

    Here's a link to the RSI site where you can pledge.

    http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/


    And this is the current crowd funding model.

    [​IMG]


    Don't miss out on what could be a very unique experience!
     
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    RSI mainsite is experiencing HEAVY traffic and may not be able to connect. Please use KickStarter page to pledge.

    Here's a short video of the AI attacking and defending a Bengal carrier.

    NOTE: This is VERY EARLY pre-pre Alpha.

    http://vimeo.com/53745615#

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    A short video of the AI of Star Citizen attacking and defending the Bengal Class Carrier. It demonstrates intelligent collision avoidance - a dense asteroid field, other space ships, including a large capital ship plus offensive and defensive roles.

    NOTE: This is very early pre-pre Alpha. There was a bug with laser bolt speed in this build and they were incorrectly capped at a very low speed. That is not how they will behave in the game. But we thought the video was awesome enough to show you anyway!"
     
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    erocker Super Moderator Staff Member

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    So what did everyone pledge? I chose Bounty Hunter level.
     
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    I took bounty hunter level as well. I looked at the others, going on my track record in freelancer chances are I will never get in anything bigger than a fighter tho. So it made sense for me to have lifetime insurance on a slightly higher tier fighter.
     
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    Digital bounty hunter here. I'll try to work/trade/smuggle my way through to a Constellation Mk3.

    I'm tempted to get a Heavy Bomber... Sounds very interesting for Group PvP, PvE ...

    Edit: Hope they add a ingame mp3 player so I can listen to some StarWars music and such while playing. (bark of the darkside? LOL)

    Edit 2: I hope the Origin 300i look something like this. *fingers crossed*

    [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks for the heads up. I had not gotten around to pledging yet and this was a good reminder.

    Watched the videos again and went bounty hunter as well. I did want the Pirate ship, but $110 is a little much at the moment.

    EDIT: Dammit WiseInvestor!!! The pic of the ship made me go back to the site and pledge again!!! I upgraded to Wingnut so I get the Anvil Aerospace Hornet to play with.

    I find it odd that the Pirate class ship is only available on the kickstarter page and not the actual site...

    I hope this is the space sim that I have been waiting for.

    EDIT 2: Getting close to the 5.5mil mark...

    This is only the 2nd game I have "pre-paid" for. I'm still waiting for Interstellar Marines.

    I'm addicted to space...

    SOMEBODY ELSE POST TO BUMP THIS PLEASE!!!!
     
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    Wiselnvestor New Member

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    5.5 mil Reached !! Bengal Carrier Unlocked !!

    [​IMG]

    8 hours to go, we can reach 6 mil maybe even 6.5mil !!
     
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    If I dont pledge I cant play?
     
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    You will be able to play the game on release.

    However by missing this deadline you have missed out on lifetime insurance for your ship, and Guaranteed alpha/beta testing status.

    There is also talk of all the pre deadline pledger's getting an added bonus, What that is we don't know atm. I have a suspicion it will be a ship skin or free lifetime docking on your pledge ships.

    As far as I'm aware the RSI pledge system will be back in place in a few days. It will be more expensive, and less exclusive. People who have any level of pledge set before the deadline will be able to upgrade the pledge they have made at any point and still receive lifetime insurance on ships purchased after the cut off date.

    There is another more Suited thread for SC discussion tho. So this on should be locked and the other one allowed to continue.

    This is the correct thread to continue the SC discussion.

    On a final note here is the final list from RSI in regards to where you money is/has gone. And the final total at the deadline was 6.2 million dollars!

    [​IMG]
     
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    anyone wanna be my refferal?
     
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    erocker Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Sure! Anything I need to do?
     
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    I need your refferal link or code you can generate in your star citizen account
     
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    erocker Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I didn't get one yet. I donated through Kickstarter and I am supposed to be getting an email this month sometime. Once I get the info, I'll get you the referral. :toast:
     
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    Hi erocker can you send me your refferal link or code too once you got it? I believe you got the first post on announcing Star Citizen on TPU.

    Humm... Maybe we should start a TPU smuggling ring... Cheers!
     
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    Oh no! I missed my chance =( I hope somewhere down the line is the option to secure my spot alpha and beta tests stages again =/. At least a 24 hour window or something...
     
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    You can still pledge on http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com Crowd funding is still open till ...Monday? That's because RSI mainsite had about 48h of blackout due to heavy traffic in the last 48h.

    I am fairly certain tiers still offers ships with lifetime insurance(till Monday?..). And place in alpha and beta testing is guaranteed.

    "The people who pledge for their spaceships will get to test-fly them long before the general public. 12 months in, we will allow the early backers to play the multiplayer space combat Alpha, and then 20-22 months in they will get to play the Star Citizen space combat Beta, adventuring around the huge open galaxy, well before the general public. We are going to limit our alpha slots to 200,000 as we want to stress test the game with real users, but will not be ready for the full load until we have finished Beta.

    In addition, part of the money we are asking for is budgeted to maintain the Roberts Space Industries site with constant updates. For those of you that joined before the official announcement on October 10th you’ll know that we’ve been doing two to three updates A DAY. Our goal is for the game’s website to be live from day one, constantly giving information about what’s happening in the galaxy even before the game is live, sharing interesting insights into the development process and canvassing the early backers for their opinions. Roberts Space Industries should be the first stop into the Star Citizen universe. When we say we want to involve the community, we really mean it!

    Finally we are offering the pledge slots a discount to what the final digital price will be. Like Guild Wars 2, the basic game will be $60, but for the early backers we are offering the entry tier at $40.(35$ Early adapter Digital Scout tier,full game plus Alpha and Beta)

    Our hope is that these benefits are compelling enough for you to pledge for your spaceship today.

    Please support us, tell your friends and participate in the discussion. An amazing Interstellar adventure waits!"



    As for me and all those who pledge on KickStarter, we are waiting for the survey due to arrive in less than 10 days, there seems to be A LOT of people who wish to upgrade their tier, adding ships, etc...

    We could see the amount raised rise to ~7 mil hopefully more than 7.5mil ^^


    Edit: Grace Period

    In the aftermath of some of the craziest 48 hours we've ever experienced it’s become clear that there's a sizable number of people that were unable to pledge, or adjust their pledges due to the difficulties with the RSI site.

    As a backer through Kickstarter you didn't have the same issues but we're letting you know that because we don't want to punish our incredible community for issues on our side we have decided to adapt our plans and offer a grace period for all current members of the RSI community.

    If you have a membership, regardless of whether you have previously purchased a tier, you will be able to pledge at the current prices at the Roberts Space Industries Pledge Page through this weekend. We will keep the limited add-on ships available through that time for everyone who tried to purchase one but wasn't able. Everything will switch to the new pricing structure on Monday November 26th. "


    Get those ships with lifetime insurance!
     
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    I wish I had spare cash laying around :(

    Also - Celebrity voice-acting for Squadron 42; we will bring back at least one favorite from Wing Commander!

    I'm betting it's Mark Hammill.
     
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    I take it you had to have registered prior to get the lifetime insurance?
    I don't see it as being available anywhere (I just registered to check it out).
     
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    Hi Winvestor here. I couldn't get my account reset to log back so I had to create a new one instead.

    Ok here's the official word from Rear Admiral Mobius from RSI

    "There has been some changes to the official stance on matter. Now everyone, even new members who setup their accounts after the crowdfunding ended, can have lifetime insurnace on their pledge ship and have the old pricing structure, until grace period ends monday. Grab your ships while you can!"

    http://www.robertsspaceindustries.c...or-all-pledges-new-or-old-till-monday-26-nov/

    According to that post there was a brief period that the ships had only 6 months insurance on them.(I saw that for ~couple of hours or so, it was indicated on the info of those pledges) If that's the case please email sandi@cloudimperiumgames.com to switch to lifetime insurance.

    Yes, anyone can have lifetime insurance till the last seconds of Sunday Nov 25.
     
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    What does it mean ship insurance? does it mean you will be able to fix ship for free or what?
     
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    Ok, to bring this back to the front, There's less than a month to back this re-boot of Elite, named Elite: Dangerous. I know that some of us went whole hog on the Star Citizen backing, but Elite was the Zork of Space Sims, and the group could really use some of our cash. I'm bumping a couple of the Star Citizen threads to see if we can catch some additional bodies, who missed my original Star Citizen post over here back in October. *cheers* ;)
     
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    As I understood the Insurance, your ship is "Blow-uppable" :) which means, you can get your butt blown out of the sky, and have to replace it. You have to buy another ship, or if you're strapped, you'll have to fly "third-party", which I guess means flying missions with someone else's ship, until you can you buy your own. Here's the text of their Insurance FAQ.
    Insurance FAQ

    What is insurance?
    Pilots in Star Citizen can purchase insurance policies for their ships, modifications and cargo. This ensures that your ship will be replaced and/or its modifications and cargo will be subsidized should you be destroyed in a fight or accident. As in real life, insurance policies must be maintained: you must pay a regular fee in galactic credits (the in-game currency) or your policy will lapse and you will not receive a payout or a ship replacement when your ship is destroyed.

    Will this Insurance cost a lot?
    Like in real-life insurance should be a relatively small part of your regular in game expenses which will also include paying landing fees, trade tariffs (if in a system with lots of infrastructure and law and order), fuel (if you don’t collect it yourself from a gas giant), buying cargo to trade, hiring help, making upgrades to your ship or even buying a whole new ship.

    Some of the additional policies like upgrade or cargo insurance will be rated based on risk levels. Risk level 1 being the safest systems and risk level 5 being the most dangerous system that is insurable for cargo or upgrades. Any risk level over 5 is un-insurable. A risk 3 policy for cargo will cover you for all cargo losses in a risk 3 system or below. The higher the risk level of the policy the more it will cost. As with the base insurance this will not be crippling financially but instead be a reasonable running cost that relates to the risk / reward profile of the systems flown.

    How do I get lifetime insurance?
    Anyone who pledged for a copy of Star Citizen before November 26, 2012 automatically has lifetime insurance on their pledge ships; this protects the investment you made in the game in perpetuity. Anyone who pledged for a copy on or after November 26th starts with a finite insurance package for their ship. This can be anywhere from 2 months to 12 months depending on the ship and policy type. Lifetime insurance does not exist for modifications or cargo.

    What happens if I don’t have insurance?
    Your character will have to buy a new ship with any credits he has, or if he doesn’t have enough credits fly missions for a third party (both NPC and player) until he’s earned enough to buy his own ship again.

    Will ships I add to my account have lifetime insurance?
    Users who registered and bought at least one ship before November 26, 2012 can purchase additional ships with lifetime insurance for the next twelve months of development. Users who registered on or after November 26, 2012 can purchase additional ships with variable length starter insurance policies ranging from two months to twelve months.

    Can I trade my lifetime insurance ship?
    Yes. The lifetime insurance will follow the ship hull when it is legally sold or gifted. If the ship is stolen or otherwise captured, the policy will not transfer.

    Will my insurance carry over to ships I earn in the finished game?
    No, and you cannot transfer insurance policies from one ship to another.

    Can I use my insurance as an excuse to simply ram other ships to death knowing I will get my ship back?
    You can, but this will be a very bad idea as it is inconvenient and time consuming in getting your replacement ship ready to go again. Additionally there will be an increasing delay in replacing your ship every time you make a claim within a certain period of time.

    Can I insure alien or one-off ships?
    No. The only exception is the limited number of Vanduul fighters sold through the RSI site during the pledge campaign; these ships do have lifetime insurance included.

    What will you do to combat insurance fraud?
    A ship cannot be sold without a legitimate hull id code. Claiming on the insurance policy invalidates the hull code on your previous ship, so if it was captured or stolen the new owner will be unable to sell the ship at a regular ship dealer. Additionally if you have claimed on a policy and someone is flying the stolen ship in a well policed system, the hull id will mark it as a stolen ship, the law will be after you and landing privileges will be denied on any lawful planet. You will be able to fly a “hot” ship to the less savory parts of the Star Citizen universe, where you will probably be able to land and may be able to purchase a fake hull id code, but it will take effort and not necessarily be cheap.

    Finally the Advocacy takes insurance fraud very seriously. If it can be proven that a player has colluded with another player to defraud the insurance company, that hull’s lifetime insurance will be invalidated and the player may have to pay a large amount of credits to keep their record clean and not be marked as a wanted criminal.

    Linked from here : http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen-faq/
     
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    If I get it right,FOr now we just reserved ships,but when game comes out we will need to buy game for additional cash?
     
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    That depends on your pledge level.

    All of the pledges that had a ship with them also have a full copy of the game, and some extra credits and access to the alpha and beta tests. The cheapest of those pledges is $35 for the scout package. If you only placed the $10 pledge I do not know if your extra ships will benefit from the lifetime insurance upgrade and the $10 pledge does not include a full copy of the game.

    Ship insurance is a replacement ship minus your upgrades when you destroy your ship. Lifetime insurance means you will always have the ship that is tied to your pledge replaced whenever it is destroyed. Regardless of how far into the game you are. This insurance does not cover upgrades and cargo. You can insure your ships in game as well for a small credit cost. While the lifetime insurance is in no way needed it does mean you have a throw away ship that is always going to be replaced. Added to that the insurance could be tied to something bigger and more powerful like a freelancer or constellation. If you failed to pledge before the deadline then i believe you only get 4 months of in game insurance with any new pledge, people that got pledges in before the deadline have a full year to add more ships to the plan and all new ships will get free insurance as well.

    This game is not pay to play. It's going to run on a GW/GW2 style funding model. That means the game will have all of the options available to people in game for in game cash that are also available on the web store.

    This model should work like this.

    Spend time getting credits doing grunt work to pay for a ship. Or spend RL cash in the store for the same ship. This doesn't mean the people who pay RL cash get an advantage. Just that they don't have to spend the grind time generating income. I suspect ship skins will be available for heroic acts, But most of the skins will be only available via the store since they don't affect game balance.


    expansions and updates. CIG has stated that the game should micro transition through content. Small updates every few weeks adding content, Added into that there will be a paid content update similar to how the GW model works.
     
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    Tempting big a big old school fan of Space sims but I wanna see more of a product after getting burnt my MWO before I shell out money again for an unfinished product
     

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