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The Ati vs. Nvidia Image Quality Thread

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by DarkMatter, Mar 14, 2008.

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Who has the better IQ this generation?

  1. Ati

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    56.8%
  2. Nvidia

    19 vote(s)
    12.8%
  3. None. Both have the same.

    45 vote(s)
    30.4%
  1. Nitro-Max

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    Well in that case i stick to the fact that drivers are too premature to come to any conclusion as both cards show improvements in a mix of games.
     
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    Obviously you didn't read the entire article and you missed the point.
    There was a control group. They showed them the same image, that is, Ati vs. Ati, and Nvidia vs. Nvidia. And results were 9 for monitor A, 6 for monitor B and 3 saw no difference. Allof them would have said no difference and clearlystate both are Ati now because IQ is better,or both are Nvidia since it's worse,for example. That is the point, and they explain it well in the article. If Ati was better, since those people are experts, all of them would have taken Ati and not only some of them. They didn't, so there isn't enough ofa proof to give a win. Or we can take all the numbers as a proof and conclude that monitor A is a lot better than monitor B, even though is the same and has been calibrated with professional tool to look exactlythe same. READ the entire article...
     
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    Drivers are premature? Nvidia series 8 launched November 2006, Ati HD2900 XT launched May 2007...
     
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    but they arent current gen either my x2 is and the 9xxx series are they are the newest gen of gpus
     
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    ATi hands down

    have owned

    Geforce 8800 GTX , 8800 GTS 640MB , 8800 GTS (G92) , 8800 GT
    also borrowed an 8800 Ultra for benching purposes .......

    Owned
    x800xt pe , x850 xt pe , x1800 xt , x1900 xtx , 2900 xt 1gb , hd 3870 CF

    current hd 3870 x2 ......
     
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    Do you care to comment on that DarkMatter?

    Because either you are confused or i am?

    Maybe you should have made the thread more clearer when making comparissons.:banghead:
     
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    nvidia's 8800(G92) series is still current gen though, same gpu(X) as the 9XXX series so far, even the 8800GS is faster than the 9600GT in most cases with the same image quality
     
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    So we are comparing new to old?
     
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    1) i have only skimmed oveter the thread
    2) have i missed somthing here but wouldnt the monitor play a larger part in all of this crt,lcd,vga/dvi ect??? (only thinking of things like, well i look at my mates screen and my gfx card looks way better) ???
     
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    All of the reviews posted are suposed to be run on the same monitor, cable, etc.

    My personal experience is with both cards plugged in my monitor. It has two inputs and a switch to select one of them at will, so we plugged two computers at the same time. I think that anybody posting here has done something similar, we don't have any reason to suspect anything else.
     
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    You know very well that G80 and G92 is the same generation and R600 and RV670 is the same generation. We are talking about Ati's HD2000 and HD3000 series and Nvidia's 8 and 9 series.
     
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    Ive actually been away for the last year and half been back a couple of weeks so ye im still catching up:laugh:

    G80 and G92 is the same generation well thats a bit crap then so its not really new tech! Thats how AMD lost there cpu crown.:confused:
     
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    Well Nvidia 6 and 7 series was the same architecture, Ati 9, 10 and X1800 were the same architecture (not completely sure about x1800, X1900 definately wasn't, but then again the difference between x1900 and x1800 was bigger than from the previous mentioned) and HD2000 and HD3000 are the same architecture. And usually the image quality is common to the whole architecture
     
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    Personally, I think ATi's image quality is better. Unless I'm doing something wrong (which is entirely possible), I'm getting a crapload of jaggies with max AA (6x MSAA I think) on HL2 with my 8800GT 512mb. My friend's 3870 runs HL2 flawlessly... I would go as far as to say that that the image produced by my old x1950pro would put my 8800GT to shame.
     
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    cant wait for intel gpu wil beat both ati and nvidia
     
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    Well from the looks of this, ATI pretty much has the vote on better IQ...
     
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    okay a little off topic, but wtf? why did you do that?
     
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    actually the x1800 and x1900 were more similar than the x800 and x1800, the x1800 was ati's first generation of what they dubbed their shader processor, on the x800 they still called it a pixel pipeline.
     
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    to see if cables made any quality difference (they didnt).

    Also, my HDMI cable is 30cm while my VGA is 1.8 meters.
     
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    screw ATI ! <insert canned audience> just kidding :(

    this poll is so stacked no way all these people have owned both brands (atleast not recent generations)

    PS, Dark not only did you spell my name wrong but you spelt my nickname wrong, its calvary as in golgotha not cavalry in army.

    - Christine
     
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    IQ is in eyes of the beholder or one mans goddess is another man’s bush pig
     
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    I kinda agree, especially with newer hardware - I've been lucky in the fact that between me and my father, there is now a total of 4 rigs currently running in this house - where I'm an Intel/ATI loyalist, he prefers AMD/nVidia (odd-ass combination, ain't it :laugh:), so I've seen both.

    I think the worst nVidia card I've seen, was a FX 5500 that he owned - aside from how quirky the card was, I found the IQ to be horrible; took me forever to talk him into buying a newer card.
     
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    I'm gonna call you cindy from now on christine:p
     
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    Sorry. :eek::(:eek::(:eek:
    It's corrected in the OP now. And did I spell Christine wrong too? :cry:

    And I agree with you. There are 87 votes right now. 57 voted for one of the brands having better IQ, but almost no justifications for that.

    If you think one brand has better IQ, at least you can give a justification using some screenies from the provided links or something... Until people provide proofs and justifications the poll is pointless. I shouldn't have attached a poll, but I knew it would encourage more people to enter the thread. I just thought there would be more serious people. :(
     

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