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The first review ASUS GTX 465 !!!

Discussion in 'NVIDIA' started by bakalu, May 28, 2010.

  1. bakalu

    bakalu New Member

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    Here I will compare the performance of ASUS GTX 465 and ASUS GTX 285 TOP

    My system
    CPU Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3.6GHz
    Mainboard ASUS Rampage II Gene
    RAM 3x2GB DDR3
    VGA ASUS GTX 465, ASUS GTX 285 TOP
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
    Driver NVIDIA 257.15 beta 64bit


    Update Result benchmark game of GTX465 @ 700/925

    Crysis Warhead. 1680*1050, NoAA, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

    ASUS GTX 285 TOP
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 default
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
    [​IMG]

    Call of Juarez DX10. 1680*1050, AA=4X Multi_sampling, Max Settings

    ASUS GTX 285 TOP
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 default
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
    [​IMG]

    S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11. 1680*1050, AA=4X, Max Settings

    ASUS GTX 285 TOP No Tessellation
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 default, Tessellation=ON
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840, Tessellation=ON
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925, Tessellation=ON
    [​IMG]

    Demo benchmark Dirt 2. 1680*1050, AA=4X, Ultra Settings. POST PROCESS=MEDIUM

    ASUS GTX 285 TOP DirectX 9
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 default DirectX 9
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840 DirectX 9
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925 DirectX 9
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 default DirectX 11
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840 DirectX 11
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925 DirectX 11
    [​IMG]

    Benchmark Bad Company 2. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1680*1050, AA=4X, AF=16X, Max Settings

    ASUS GTX 285 TOP
    ASUS GTX 465 default DirectX 11
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840 DirectX 11
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925 DirectX 11
    Benchmark Metro 2033. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1680*1050, NoAA, AF=16X, Very High, PhysX=ON

    ASUS GTX 285 TOP DirectX 9
    ASUS GTX 465 default DirectX 9
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840 DirectX 9
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925 DirectX 9
    ASUS GTX 285 TOP DirectX 10
    ASUS GTX 465 default DirectX 10
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840 DirectX 10
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925 DirectX 10
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 650/840 DirectX 11
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925 DirectX 11
    GTX465 runs very stable at core/memory of GTX480. . I use furmark to test the temperature of GTX465@700/925. Furmark run 26'. Room temp 30oC, fan set 87%

    [​IMG]

    Max Temp 79oC.
    .......to be continued

    Source : http://forum.amtech.com.vn/overcloc...review-asus-geforce-gtx-465-a.html#post691389
     
  2. MoonPig

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    Hmmm not bad. nVidia might re-gain some users.
     
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    lyndonguitar I play games

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    I think its not worth the price.
     
  4. Benetanegia

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    I think that will depend on the actual street price. afaik MSRP is $250-300. If it's closer or below $250 (many 470 and 480's are selling below MSRP) it's totallly worth it IMO. At $300 obviously not.

    Performance wise it's pretty solid. Much better than previews that were showing below GTX275 performance. This results show an average performance close to HD5850, so like I said at prices closer to $250 than $300, it's going to be very well positioned.
     
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    meh... the performance just isnt here this generation...

    And how is that at all close to HD5850? its close to the 285, which gets beat by a STOCK 5850.
     
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    because GTX285 is extremely close to HD5850...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Aah, you ran much more that just the FurMark and OC I linked here couple days back :)

    Doesn't seem that bad with those new drivers and seems it depends heavily on the game where the extra shaders help.

    I bet NVIDIA releases 256.xx WHQL and announces GTX 465 the same day, they seem to go well together.

    Does it come with the GTX 470 cooler?
     
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    Saying the 285 is extremely close to a 5850, is like saying a 5870 is extremely close to a 480...
     
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    It's pretty close indeed, 10% It is.
     
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    I know.
    What I don't understand is whats the point?
     
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    10% is noticeably faster.

    not to mention, thats at stock... since 5850's reference can hit 950-1000mhz core and start matching/beating a 5870. That's pretty much a 285 beatdown.

    fact of the matter is... their last gen card is coming close to their new gen card. Hell the 285 is even a bit close to the 470 and ive seen benches where an OC'd 285 beats a 470 soundly.

    thats cool and all since this is a new architecture, but unless the 465 overclocks like a monster (800 core) and sells for less than $250, like you said, the upgrade will not be worth it.
     
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    One thing surprised me, Lowest FPS in Dirt2 DX9 increased with 20fps (55fps -> 75fps = 36%) with GPU OC...but then again, that was using very low resolution 1680x1050.

    EDIT ///

    I think, cards like GTX465, GTX280, GTX275 and some super oc GTX260 models (Gigabyte's GTX260 runs @ 680/1512/2500, 230€) run about the same... I bet all cards are capable of running same DX10 games at equal settings @ 19x12 rez. Then why pay 50% more for GTX465...
     
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    no photos of the card?
     
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    It does, see the source link, but price might not be that.

    In source link there is, It's GTX 470 inside out (not counting core/memory of course)
     
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    3way sli support?
     
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    Would think so yes, as it's just a GTX 470 gone too often on plastic surgeon :)
     
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    Disappointing performance. Not sure if it changes anything, but GTX285 seems to be on 2nd gen PCIe.
     
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    The 470 ocerclocks to 850 just as easily as 5850 gets to 1000 (it's about same % OC for the record), so why wouldn't a card with less SPs enabled not reach those clocks? And the performance gain from overclocking is better on Fermi cards, almost lineal, so I don't see your point.

    10% is enough difference (not a big one) but 5% is much less of a difference and I said that since the 465 is faster than 285 it has to be close to 5850 and it is indeed, at least in OP's tests. So 5% difference between 285 and 5850 and the GTX465 sits in the middle.It IS close.(unless it is faster with the new drivers, which I can't be sure tbh, I'm only basing my argument in that the OP's 465 at stock is slightly faster on average than the 285 at stock).

    The 465 are already listed for $280, as is said in the front page, middle price, so it's not either a bad nor a good deal. It's just competitive at this point. 5% slower than 5850, 5% cheaper...
     
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    Nice work you did there bakalu :toast:
     
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    To compare the performance of ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925 and ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150, GTX465 and HD5850 run stable at that clock without having to increase voltage, driver ATI 10.5a hotfix. Some benchmark results are as follows :

    3DMark Vantage Performance

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
    [​IMG]

    Crysis Warhead. 1680*1050, NoAA, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
    [​IMG]

    Call of Juarez DX10. 1680*1050, AA=4X Multi_sampling, Max Settings

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
    [​IMG]

    S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11. 1680*1050, AA=4X, Max Settings, Tessellation=ON

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
    [​IMG]

    Demo benchmark Dirt 2 DX11. 1680*1050, AA=4X, Ultra Settings. POST PROCESS=MEDIUM

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150, DirectX 11
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925, DirectX 11
    [​IMG]

    Benchmark Bad Company 2 DX11. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1680*1050, AA=4X, AF=16X, Max Settings

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
    Benchmark Metro 2033. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1680*1050, NoAA, AF=16X, Very High, PhysX=ON

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150, DirectX 9
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925, DirectX 9
    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150, DirectX 10
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925, DirectX 10
    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150, DirectX 11
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925, DirectX 11
    Devil May Cry 4 DX10. 1680*1050, AA=4X, Super High

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
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    Resident Evil 5 DX10. 1680*1050, AA=4X, Max Settings

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
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    Heaven Demo benchmark DX11. 1680*1050, AA=4X, AF=16X, Tessellation=moderate, Max Settings

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    [​IMG]

    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
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    Aliens vs. Predator DirectX 11 Benchmark. 1680*1050, AA=4X, AF=16X, Tessellation=ON, Max Settings

    ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
    ASUS GTX 465 @ 700/925
    HD5850 @ 800/1150 is much stronger than GTX465 @ 700/925, however HD5850 @ 800/1150 can not play DX11 Metro 2033 at resolution 1680*1050 .
     
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    Thats a little unfair, you mean "their last BEST single GPU offering is coming close to their current WORST nexgen offering" that in itself is pretty good in my book...... whether it is worth the dosh is a different matter, as has been said, if it is 5-10% cheaper than an HD 5850 then it might be..... certainly to some.
     
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    I read somewhere that it'll sell for $279, since nvidia sees it sitting confortably between the 5830 and the 5850. So for those like me, hoping that competition would bring prices down, we're screwed.
     
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    Yes but their BEST 285 offering was close to a 275... which was around $249 over a year ago. Now they come out with a $280 card that performs within 5-10% of the old one only with DX11.

    The price/performance really hasn't moved a whole lot in the last year on the nvidia side.

    this is just not true. It is 5% slower in SOME benchmarks... if you take everything and put them together, it performs between a 275 and a 285, which is closer to 15% slower than a 5850. Not to mention, as the resolution increases, the card eats it faster than all ATI and all old-gen cards. Overall this is not a 'performance' card even though its priced like one.

    [​IMG]

    basically the best thing about this card is that it can unlock (if it really can)... then the price is justified. 470 is a much better buy IMO.
     
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