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The Mass Effect 3 Thread

Discussion in 'Games' started by killarobot, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. techtard

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    It's not Bioware you should be angry at. EA has effectively killed them, just like they have many, many other great game development studios.

    EA forced them to rush out the abomination of a game that is Dragon Age 2.

    They forced them to rush out Star Wars : The Old Republic MMO. They even re-used the terrible game devs and programmers from Mythic Online, the guys who made the WAR mmo based on the Warhammer series. They even recycled many of the same broken game mechanics that basically killed WAR in 6 months.

    They probably forced them to cut this game into chunks to sell as DLC, because the millionaire investors and shareholders who run EA don't understand that the average gamer isn't wealthy like they are.

    I haven't played ME3 yet because my copy is in the mail and/or lost in the twilight zone. Haven't read any spoilers yet, but there is a lot of complaints about the ending, so I am lowering my expectations.
     
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    The game plays wonderfully up to the ending. Prepare for a depressive episode of about 2 days after finishing it.

    P.S. There was a poll put up on the official ME Facebook page (Tell us what you think) that lasted all of five minutes before being pulled. Bioware have given themselves an arrow to the knee.
     
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    I dunno, the ending(s) they have now were probably pretty expensive to render. I'm positive these ending were always their intent.

    If you listened to what Soverign said on Virmire and what Harbinger said through the dead Reaper on Rannoch, the motives of the Reapers are "unknowable" to organics.

    The ending emphasizes that but what use is telling a story if the player can't understand it. This happened to me in ME2 and ME3 when dealing with the geth. It doesn't matter how many times I hear it, it's still jibber jabber. I don't think this is a consequence of bad plot elements but a consequence of not explaining it in plain enough terms.


    A paragon save from ME, to ME2, to ME3 is the most fun. Renegade was emotionally difficult to play in ME1 and especially ME3.
     
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    I'd give it 5/10 too but if you load a ME1/ME2 save, that bumps up to 7/10 for character (the original 5 from ME1) story alone.

    That review is spot on-though (excepting all the grammatical and spelling errors).
     
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  6. phanbuey

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    i dont know... i think the game is actually pretty good...

    Its not as original or novel as 1... but if you never played 1, and went straight for 2 and 3 most people would say that 2 and 3 are better. Plus playing all 3 through is kind of awesome.

    I've played some shitty games... such as:
    Two Worlds II
    Far Cry II
    Kingdoms of Alamur or whatever... meh
    Witcher 1...

    This game is not BAD.. the gameplay is not revolutionary but it is decent. I would give this game an 8/10 respective to the quality of games out right now...

    Respective to the class of games that the first one was in? 5/10 is about right.
     
  7. Mussels

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    the gameplay itself is good, but so much of it feels unfinished. i can handle average plots for the side missions (hell, they're side missions. some games randomly generate crap for these) but the main story was just full of holes.


    reapers seem easy to kill (you can kill them on foot! if you shoot them in the right spot) yet massive space fleets cant touch them. so much of this makes no sense.
     
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    I wouldn't call any of those "shitty." An example of a "shitty" game is Restricted Area. It's so shitty, it doesn't even have a Wikipedia article dedicated to it. :p


    I think ME2 and ME3 would be a 8/10 game if they used the original combat system and RPG elements (I would be ecstatic if you get a HMWSR X, HMWA X, etc. ME3 could have moved up to 9/10 if they removed all the "child" stuff and put on a single happy ending (Reapers = dead). It could have moved up to 10/10 if they crushed 90%+ of the bugs currently in the game before it released.

    By "combat system," I meant:
    -No thermal clips--back to the weapon overheating system.
    -Spectre weapons like the HMWSR and HMWA.
    -Original weapon mods (like pelonium and tungstun rounds). Those mods were far more meaningful than the 5 for each weapon now and make you anticipate the kind of target you'll mostly be shooting.
    -Get rid of the weight limit: why shouldn't a soldier be able to carry a shotgun, sniper rifle, assault riffle, and pistol without penalty?
    -Bring back the crouch. Most veteran gamers would prefer to crouch and look around a corner than completely expose themselves that the current cover system mandates.
    -Grant key binding freedom: don't bind 10 different functions to one key (space bar). PC gamers are used to having a different key to jump, crouch, sprint, cover, and interact. I can understand why the controls have to be dumbified for the console audience but PC gamers are NOT console gamers; mice are NOT joysticks.
     
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    LOL ok, you're right there...

    I do think that this game is pretty good for what i expected. Might get all the DLC and play them through from 1 to 3.
     
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    how much happier would people have been, if an ending you could only get by using an ME1 and ME2 save and doing it all just right, got you one paragon and one renegade ending?

    one where everyone lives cept the reapers (yay, paragon is a good guy!) and one where everyone dies, or nearly dies, because renegade shephard doesnt give a shit about you filthy nonhumans.
     
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    Yeah, that would make more sense. Something in between (Reapers dead but so are all major civilization's home planets) as well for those that went with neutral responses.
     
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    OR Renegade means reapers die and most everyone lives, think about it, renegade isnt so much the bad guy, you simple go from point a to point b and get the job done, might not be pretty but not really worthy of a bad ending either, where as paragon in reality would be the one to lose most things after all no one in real life likes a complete kiss ass, that said im full paragon cause its a game and being the good guy just seems right, then again im an asshole in the real world so go figure haha.

    but yea just about anything is better then the current endings including no ending, id rather just have stopped just before you enter the light beam thing,

    Also
    http://retakemasseffect.chipin.com/retake-mass-effect-childs-play

    didnt see this mentioned, I find it funny that Bioware / EA calls there fans / customers whiny malcontents that have no idea about this or that, but these same people to put a positive spin on the demand for better endings has donated $43,000 to the childsplay fund in just 48hrs, which helps put video games into the hands of children at hospitals. Kinda sucks the winds out of EA / Bioware's sails that their angry customers are just pissy emo kids lol
     
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    I have to disagree. As Hackette says, "there's always another way."
     
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    Bioware used to be cool.. but then they got indoctrinated by the money rEApers
     
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    According to the internet, EA are a laughing stock these days, but the general public keep buying their crappy games and tolerating their grubby profit maximizing schemes.
     
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    Yes, indoctrination is a good fit: "I know your products are crappy but I'll keep buying them." XD
     
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    They already got your money folks. Complain all you want EA already won. Maybe you'll boycott their next game, but I doubt it! You know why? Because their marketing system has you pinned down and will trick you into buying it.
     
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    So I saw the "best" ending with 8591 readiness rating score and boy was I disappointed by the sole change.
    You see a battered body (head is never shown and the armor doesn't look like what Shepherd is wearing during the final sequence) lying in rubble with an N7 dog tag clearly visible and the body (appeared male) draws a quick breath. It then cuts away to credits.

    Edit: The armor you see in this pre-rendered ending matches the armor Shepherd is wearing in the trailers for the game. Also, devs talked about that ending and said it was Shepherd.

    I have to admit that the best part of any of the endings is the music (predominantly piano) playing. The rest is pretty "meh."
     
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    Actually i was wondering why they didn't give a special ending for people who carried their character over and did paragon or renegade. Makes sense to do that as it fits in with the choices gameplay.
    HERP A DERP everyone dies would have made more sense.
     
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    Hi gents has anyone had problems loading there mass effect 2 saved games in to me 3 ? or am i just beeing unusherally blond im using the pc vershion will all dlc,s for all 3 games any help grately appreceated

    Just finished the stand alone game as of 30 mins ago while i did enjoy the game i cant help wondering if it was worth the £40 or so i paid for it 1 it refuses to let me load old me2 saves 3 the ending is more or less the same regardless and id confess the mechanics are far from smooth me 2 took me the better part of 2 month to finish doing all the sub mishions and dlc,s me 3 i compleated in two days cant help but feel a little disaponted with that truth be said.
     
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    I had no problems but I also installed Mass Effect + DLCs and Mass Effect 2 + DLCs and made sure the saves were good in both games before importing them into Mass Effect 3.
     
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    Heres my quick opinion on the game

    I just beat it today and I ultimately love the games, however I feel like the ending came way to fast and abrupt really with the 3 choices you have at the end that have no pros at all really. So i chose destroy reapers mainly because it was the mission all along and I was starting to hate the reapers, its what anderson would have done, and so i did it for anderson since he died. And if you control the reapers I didnt want to see my shephard die and then have the reapers till roaming which doesnt get rid of the issue from the beginning.
     
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    Havent finished it yet, but am not far from it , loving every second of game.Is multiplayer playable?because I havnet even clicked on multiplayer option, till i beat game.
     
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    It is actually pretty fun in short bursts. I would not play it myself for more than 30 minutes at a time, but that is me. It is like hoard mode, whatever the hell that is. The same as Moxxy's Area in Borderlands as well.

    I just finished trying out the "Co-op" mode/Multiplayer. It is actually pretty fun. You fight out waves (11 total. 10 combat waves and 1 extraction wave) with one type of enemy. For example if you fight Reapers you get attacked by cannibals and husks as foot soldiers, turian hybrids as advanced guard, brutes as the heavy unit, racni mobile cannons as support, and banshee as special unit. You can fight the reapers, Cerberus, or the Geth. I played on unknown enemy and fought 3 rounds of Reapers and 1 round of Cerberus.

    The maps are places from the game. Some are diverse and interesting with multiple attack vectors. Others are small claustrophobic areas with only 1 to 3 ways to attack a given position.

    To shake up the monotony of just killing, the game will random give you specialized mission goals to accomplish. I am not sure how many but I experienced kill commander unit (time limit), hack single terminal to steal info.(random could give good or terrible position to defend), and hack multiple locations to gain foothold in area (short but terminal you hack is random).

    The fun comes in the fact you are limited to a single class with a single set of skills. This means given your class and fighting style, you will not be well suited to fight at least 2 types of enemies. You have to depend on your squad to take care of what they are good at while you do the same. Beyond built in biotic abilities, everything else is a consumable system. You may only have 5 health packs period. Not per wave or per round, period. It brings a dynamic to it as you may want to give up on the mission and save your good shit for later or honestly believe using your 1 shot missile on the banshee will give you enough breathing room to win the wave and save the match.

    For those who plan don't care, I played 4 matches, failed 2 in wave 7 and 10. I am already level 6 or 7 in multiplayer and the galaxy readiness is up to 64%. So for about 30 minutes of my time I gained 14%. So you only need to play multiplayer for about 1:45 (about 15 matches) to get 100% readiness if your skill is about the same as mine. Results may vary.
     
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    Finished ME3 with 2 endings, played a bit of multiplayer to lvl10 was quite fun, but thats it for me deleted game.
     

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