really? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RewTIzKDS...KVyHngSk/s1600/hl2_2008-03-18_21-26-21-05.jpg http://www.pcgameshardware.com/screenshots/original/2009/08/rage_6.jpg admittedly not as close as close, but it's actually difficult find screenshots. if you find comparable to show i'm wrong i'll flip in a heartbeat - but i don't see what you are talking about. and second - i for one don't spend the game staring at textures up close. i play it, which is where rage's graphics are obviously better. running through a building, driving through the desert - it looks better with rage. you may be right in that some rocks and signs, etc may look comparable or even better close up - but again, if you are staring at walls the whole game i don't think you are doing it right. and just wait, there will be a hi res pack and then i'll be TOTALLY right @bene i know you weren't. just clarifying but if we are considering hi res packs that came out months or YEARS after release(3rd party no less), lets wait for Rage's and make a fair argument. and those screenshots highlight shadows and lights - and look better, but i still say no contest in detail and fidelity.