The TPU UK Clubhouse

[MightyMission]

yea thats a known about nvidia control panel setting physx to cpu,theres no way thats 60fps with physx maxed mate.i used to run a 1440x900 monitor (acer al1916w)back when i completed this game and i know there were key points where the gpu's screamed,those big monsters with small heads/in the electrified ring with +10 enemies etc.hold on i will find you results from a gtx 480 main card with various cards including gts 250 for phsx

 

[cheesy999]

yea thats a known about nvidia control panel setting physx to cpu,theres no way thats 60fps with physx maxed mate.i used to run a 1440x900 monitor (acer al1916w)back when i completed this game and i know there were key points where the gpu's screamed,those big monsters with small heads/in the electrified ring with +10 enemies etc.hold on i will find you results from a gtx 480 main card with various cards including gts 250 for phsx

i just google'd benchies and the first ones that came up confirmed my POV, you have a problem somewhere uness your running 2xHD etc

 

[MightyMission]

When i get the ram and mobo in i will go back over it,but i am pretty much certain that it was just maxing the settings in the game gave the computer grief!
Mafia 2 was the same..and dirt 3

 

[cheesy999]

When i get the ram and mobo in i will go back over it,but i am pretty much certain that it was just maxing the settings in the game gave the computer grief!
Mafia 2 was the same..and dirt 3

if you have problems in dirt 3 with 470 sli you have a major config problem somewhere, i know that sounds bad but i really would have a look over your settings if i was you

my benches at 800mhz mind you so that is a little over normal g92 speeds

 

[MightyMission]

you could be right!
I will check over it when i set the ddr3 system up,
i had a daily driver 4ghz cpu/3.8 ghz cpu-nb overclock in place that forced me to have ddr2 at 667 divider due to my 800 mhz ram not wanting to boot at 602 mhz!

So then i get some 1200 mhz ram to eliminate that bottleneck and it didnt boot at 602 lol.

Having said that both the 470s were at 900 core/1900 shaders and 1800 memory(chillers rock for overclocking) so it was hardly lacking in performance...
I couldn't say whats what until i have the system setup properly again but i hope i remember to run the benches and see whats what.I am intrigued but it could be a week or two until everything is in place

Do you have the settings maxed with dirt 3?you did restart batman after maxing the settings and before running the bench right?

 

[Bo$$]

i had 9800gt SLI on this game and 1 card was enough to play with physx on normal and high settings at 1080P, should still be smooth for you


your memory controller wont be able to take it most mobos take 800mhz or 1066mhz

 

[MightyMission]

IMC is onboard on phenoms,but your right about most amd mobos not accepting faster than 1066...you can force the issue though using volts and subzero temps
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Though it was hardly worth it as the bandwidth was not much better than 800mhz ram...i can only assume its due to crappy timings,the only ones that would work in this combination..

I only found out today that the accepted ram speed is in the mobo's BIOS though the ram controller is in the CPU...

 

[cheesy999]

you could be right!
I will check over it when i set the ddr3 system up,
i had a daily driver 4ghz cpu/3.8 ghz cpu-nb overclock in place that forced me to have ddr2 at 667 divider due to my 800 mhz ram not wanting to boot at 602 mhz!

So then i get some 1200 mhz ram to eliminate that bottleneck and it didnt boot at 602 lol.

Having said that both the 470s were at 900 core/1900 shaders and 1800 memory(chillers rock for overclocking) so it was hardly lacking in performance...
I couldn't say whats what until i have the system setup properly again but i hope i remember to run the benches and see whats what.I am intrigued but it could be a week or two until everything is in place

Do you have the settings maxed with dirt 3?you did restart batman after maxing the settings and before running the bench right?

Yes, i did, and the settings were already maxed that was just to prove, My dirt 3 is an estimate based on the fact i get 70-80fps on 2 and since i heard that dirt 3 was roughly the same performance wise i don't really see the FPS halving

@mighty: i'm running DDR2 800 cas 6 o/c'd to cas 5 but i have some DDR 3 1600 i'm about to order so i'll swap the DDR3 1600 into the same mobo the DDR2 800 is in and tell you if theres any difference

Can anyone tell me if the hyper 212+ is worth it?, people keep giving me really strange answers to that, bottom line: how many 'c (roughly) off the stock cooler

 

[MightyMission]

i would appreciate that cheesy.
the hyper 212 is well worth having.your cpu is a 125w when unlocked,right?i doubt you will see anything over 55c even with 1.5v providing your giving your case a good supply of fresh air.
Dirt 3 has a built in bench and its much harder on the gpu's...though i think i will just hush on the subject until i can see myself what my own systems doing..

 

[MilkyWay]

The Frio is one of the best for air cooling i understand.
Maybe a reseat with some newer thermal paste might help?some dry out or crack over time which can cause air pockets.
or clearing out the dust in the fins and on the fan blades.

tenuous i know but possible.

I finally got my refunds from ebay last night Re: the dodgy 1200 ddr2 and the moment i decide what mobo and ram i'm going to grab the mrs tells me shes overdrawn my bank account

MX 4 needs no "curing" time and its non conductive. Originally i thought the paste was dried out or since the cooler moved the paste wasn't applied correctly/seated properly so i did reapply but only a slight difference in the end. IMO the AMD mounting scheme is pish the bolt through method is easier which a lot of coolers now offer as an alternative for AMD sockets.

EDIT: The Corsair Vengence ram should be okay dont expect it to fly on that rusty motherboard you have, im worried the chipset and random fact it uses who ha and black magic to get DDR2 and DDR3 on the same board should hinder it a bit. IMO go for tighter timings at 1600mhz, as timings are better on AMD cpu. The northbridge clock is also a hinderance to amd cpu ideally it should be about just bellow double the ram speed for it not to bottleneck, since your on AM2+ im guessing thats impossible. Maybe a good idea to get the ram now and save up for a 9xx board later on which would be better.

Coolmaster hyper 212+ is a fantastic cpu cooler, IMO no one should run the stock cooler unless they plan to run at stock and just internet.
EVER HEARD OF GOOGLE? Yeah thats what im using to find reviews for yourself, you should be able to do that yourself.
On AMD http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/cooler_master_hyper_212_plus_tx3_heatsinks/5
On Intel http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ster-hyper-212-plus-cpu-cooler-review-10.html

Also just because the ram has a low voltage doesn't mean it will oc great it just means it has room, really depends on the type of chips it has should be fine though.

 

[cheesy999]

the hyper 212 is well worth having.your cpu is a 125w when unlocked,right?i doubt you will see anything over 55c even with 1.5v providing your giving your case a good supply of fresh air.

Case has 2 Cheapish fans as intake and an incredibly expensive (got it free in a giveaway) Noctua fan, as the exhuast right next to the CPU cooler

one thing i'm worried about though is the boards only rated for 95w procesors, although i think its tougher then it says as its got o/c and unlock functions advertised

 

[Millennium]

Anyone else having trouble with TF2 with recent nvidia drivers? I used to run it maxed out AA and all at native res, smooth as silk, just tried it it's really choppy. Going to try some other drivers out.

 

[cheesy999]

Anyone else having trouble with TF2 with recent nvidia drivers? I used to run it maxed out AA and all at native res, smooth as silk, just tried it it's really choppy. Going to try some other drivers out.

haven't played the game or updated my drivers in months

 

[Millennium]

Fixed it, something I changed in Nvidia Inspector killed my framerates. Defaults are fine. Anyone use nvidia inspector here? I'm a bit of a newb could do with good settings lol

edit: back to smoking and drinking for me Got movies to watch!

 

[cheesy999]

i've found what is simultaneously the worst and most catchy song in existence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPrnduGtgmc

 

[Millennium]

Just Cause 2 for 3.50 and Batman Arkham Asylum for £3, coming soon!

Could have saved some money nevermind.

 

[cheesy999]

Just Cause 2 for 3.50 and Batman Arkham Asylum for £3, coming soon!

Could have saved some money nevermind.

know someone who wants just cause 2 and it registers with steam (double bonus)

 

[MilkyWay]

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/g-s...-24-1-5v-59-15-deliv/963292#post-comment-nojs

8gb of G.Skill ram for £60. IMO a bargain for us AMD users. Plus thats 4x2gb.

 

[scaminatrix]

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/g-s...-24-1-5v-59-15-deliv/963292#post-comment-nojs

8gb of G.Skill ram for £60. IMO a bargain for us AMD users. Plus thats 4x2gb.

1600 @ C9 too, not bad. 16GB for £120's good for that speed/latency

 

[FreedomEclipse]

that DDR3 is tempting...

 

[MightyMission]

is just cause 2 any good?

 

[MilkyWay]

is just cause 2 any good?

Its like a GTA clone but you can fly planes and blow shit up. Kinda fun for a little play around but as a serious game i didn't find it compelling enough.

Ive got that same ram i posted it up here when i purchased it, it was £65 when i got it.
1600mhz is okay and i know you can tighten the timings a bit with a voltage bump. Havnt tried it myself. Although i will say my northbridge is more stable since i changed ram!

 

[MightyMission]

That's interesting about the ram,is your nb at stock speeds?
I can leave a gta clone and wait for gta 5 instead,as i still got maybe 8 games i haven't completed yet.
Can you please do a maxxmem screen so i can see how much to expect from 1600mhz ram?
After the 1200 mhz debacle i am not sold there is any real difference other than number on a screen if you know what i mean?

does this look like a good deal?
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Comp...2x2GB)+DDR3+1600MHz+7-9-7-24+?productId=45250
£35 Mushkin Radioactive 2x2gb 1600MHz RAM Speed, CAS 7-9-7-24

 

[scaminatrix]

That's a really good deal man! Nicely spotted, snatch their arm off 1600 C7 stuff usually goes for more.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

That's a really good deal man! Nicely spotted, snatch their arm off 1600 C7 stuff usually goes for more.

buy me some!!