I'm trying to download the Oblivion mod Thieves Arsenal, which is recommended here http://aelius28.googlepages.com/home. (By the way JC316, thank you and at the same time, shame on you!!! for sending me to that link! It's great, it has all these mods!!! But the links no longer work!! So I end up having to look up each one I want at various different places!!) OK well back to the problem... that site recommends Thieves Arsenal, as well as Thieves Arsenal Mission Zero, which is an addon, which also has a patch. I was able to download the Mission Zero and the patch, but I cannot find the place to download the original Thieves Arsenal. I've checked: http://home.comcast.net/~scruggsyw/Thieves_Arsenal.htm http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9655 http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/ http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/ google...etc. Anyway, am I missing something?? It shouldn't be so hard to find the original mod when the addon and patch are so readily available, but then it doesn't surprise me . Also, on the developer's site, it says that "If you wish to use mods that require OBSE (like Thieves Arsenal), you must launch the game with OBSE_Loader.exe instead of the Oblivion Launcher. Just double-click the .exe. in your Oblivion folder. Alternatively, use one of the many OBSE-aware launchers like Oblivion Mod Manager, OBSE Launcher, or OBSE-Compatible Oblivion Launcher." So... I have Oblivion Mod Manager, but NOT OBSE... will the Oblivion Mod Manager be enough to run this (once I find it...)? Thanks all!!