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sorry i haven't seen that movie in ages, any chance of actually answering my question though?:)

Lol.

I don't see why not. After all, Michael J. Fox did it.
 
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that said,would 1.21 gigawatts be enough power to get a car up to the speeds the OP described?
I imagine that would depend on how efficiently the car used the 1.21 gigawatts.
 
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lol yeah, i'm like what? can't disprove?


possible, theoretically - but that's based on current understandings.

there's no saying that in many years time we won't finally learn some crucial
piece of information that explains why it isn't possible - or definitely is.

until we have either done it, or proven it impossible - we simply don't know.

Well we can already move forwards in time by a few fractions of second, just not backwards and the laws of physics don't prevent it. So I say (like Mitchio Kakuku) its just a matter of time, when our technologies and physics are advance enough to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02WMNoHSm8
 
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Well we can already move forwards in time by a few fractions of second, just not backwards and the laws of physics don't prevent it. So I say (like Mitchio Kakuku) its just a matter of time, when our technologies and physics are advance enough to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02WMNoHSm8

i like michio and all, but i also think he is a bit optimistic. if it comes down to
scant evidence, he is more likely to say it's possible than not.

i am the conservative type in these regards. if i cannot be sure of something,
i am hesitant to even give an opinion, let alone an optimistic one expected to be
scientifically accurate.

that said, i believe it is possible. i just enjoy playing devil's advocate more
often than not, as it helps greatly in understanding your own.. understanding :)
 

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Being that time is relative I believe it possible to achieve what could loosely be called time travel by travelling at insanel fast speeds to and from a single fixed position, or from one to another perhaps. stasis would also achieve similar results tho.

definitely unsure on travelling backwards through time, seems unlikely to me.
 
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well the understanding of time as having a forward and backward is fundamentally flawed.

we put time into those terms as that's how we see the world. in our existence, there are
causes and effects, so one must come before the other, so there must be linear time. false.

it is in no way scientifically impossible for an effect to happen before a cause. that right
there breaks our understanding of linear time, and i believe makes traveling backwards
theoretically possible.

the thing is, all of this requires technology that is not only out of our reach, but out of
our current understanding.
 
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Usually, when people speak of time travel, they mean traveling at a speed or direction that significantly deviates from the norm. At this point, you and I are traveling at slightly different speeds in time relative to each other. I personally think that it's likely we will find a way to enact some form of time travel, as we have already discovered that we can affect, albeit minimally, the rate at which time proceeds, through speed and gravitational force.

And fourstaff, just because we have not recognized anyone traveling backwards in time to meet us does not mean that it has not happened. Anyone from a future in which humanity had access to time travel technology would also likely have the capability to effectively disguise themselves. One must also consider the fact that future people would not want to affect history, because it could affect their future. Both forwards and backwards travel in time do throw up logical problems, though. Going into the past, the most obvious one is the "I killed my grandmother" impossibility, in that if you killed your grandmother, you would cease to exist, and then you could not have killed your grandmother. With travel into the future, things stay mostly fine unless you travel back into the past. For example, if you went two hundred years into the future and brought back the theory for faster-than-light space travel, and then you were the pioneer of that theory in your time, the actual information in that theory would have come out of nowhere, which is impossible.

Who knows if we will ever be able to travel it the fourth dimension, but I think it certainly makes for many interesting possibilities.

actually its not because paradox theory that make travel back in time impossible. Its because the feedback that culprit and actually there are microscopic hole in space and time, and you can travel back in time if you can in it, but shame the hole is so small even smaller than atom so you can't in it, and it have a very short life span. You can in read hawking book about time travel he you want to know more.
 
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If you travel far enough forward in time, you may actually end up back where you started. It is theoretically possible that by travelling far enough forwards you would actually be travelling backwards. Think of it like this, thousands of years ago, people believed that if you traveled in one direction far enough, you would end up falling off the edge of the earth, ofc we know better now. Time could be the same.
 
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Being that time is relative I believe it possible to achieve what could loosely be called time travel by travelling at insanel fast speeds to and from a single fixed position, or from one to another perhaps. stasis would also achieve similar results tho.

definitely unsure on travelling backwards through time, seems unlikely to me.

if we could undo time, chemical reactions would happen backwards, imagine being able to have air conditioners that in the summer months, would of run off the fuel burn't during the winter months, you could use the physics of time travel to a much better effect then time travel itself
 
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again, the idea that time is a linear construct is not definite. there is no saying our biology
depends on time. they may be correlative but they are not definitely causal.
 

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actually its not because paradox theory that make travel back in time impossible. Its because the feedback that culprit and actually there are microscopic hole in space and time, and you can travel back in time if you can in it, but shame the hole is so small even smaller than atom so you can't in it, and it have a very short life span. You can in read hawking book about time travel he you want to know more.

I have read Hawking's books, at least some of them. You are correct, however, paradox theory is just that, a theory. While I certainly have a high respect for Hawking, that doesn't mean his word is necessarily true. And if we're talking about tiny holes, remember that matter can be infinitely condensed. Theoretically, any mass can fit in any size "hole". Getting out of the hole alive would be the problem. :)
 
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if we're talking about tiny holes, remember that matter can be infinitely condensed. Theoretically, any mass can fit in any size "hole". Getting out of the hole alive would be the problem. :)

Insert joke here
 
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PROTIP: The world isn't the only place with time. Going around it won't manipulate time.

You would fall off if you went that fast... both because the earth would be moving away from you and because you would be going much faster than escape velocity.
 
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I have read Hawking's books, at least some of them. You are correct, however, paradox theory is just that, a theory. While I certainly have a high respect for Hawking, that doesn't mean his word is necessarily true. And if we're talking about tiny holes, remember that matter can be infinitely condensed. Theoretically, any mass can fit in any size "hole". Getting out of the hole alive would be the problem. :)

but by infinitely condensed our own body, especially to the size of atom, it will make our own atom to collaps by its own gravity and we will turn to micro blackhole and eventually vanish into hawking radiation.

the best way to do is expand the hole somehow and eliminate the feedback, I think that the best way to travel in time, but maybe we won't back travel in own time it can be in another dimension, that surely will eliminate paradox theory
 
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but by infinitely condensed our own body, especially to the size of atom, it will make our own atom to collaps by its own gravity and we will turn to micro blackhole and eventually vanish into hawking radiation.

the best way to do is expand the hole somehow and eliminate the feedback, I think that the best way to travel in time, but maybe we won't back travel in own time it can be in another dimension, that surely will eliminate paradox theory

I don;t think the current theories of other dimensions are like the movie versions. Another dimension doesn;t actually mean another reality.
 
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Archimedes said "Give me a long enough lever and a pivot point and I can move the earth." This should work on principle but of course you will probably never be able to meet the conditions. Saying that time travel is impossible is implausible. It is most likely possible but under extremely special conditions. So let me be the first to say - give me a large enough power source and I will move you through time.
 
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Archimedes said "Give me a long enough lever and a pivot point and I can move the earth." This should work on principle but of course you will probably never be able to meet the conditions. Saying that time travel is impossible is implausible. It is most likely possible but under extremely special conditions. So let me be the first to say - give me a large enough power source and I will move you through time.

I dunno, there is plenty of power, as power is just mass and visa-versa , and there is a helluva lot of mass in the universe.
 

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If I could travel back in time I would make sure my dad wore a condom !
 
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If I could travel back in time I would make sure my dad wore a condom !
At the time of your own conception, or a sibling's? :laugh:
 

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I don;t think the current theories of other dimensions are like the movie versions. Another dimension doesn;t actually mean another reality.

yes it is, actually they have found the evidence that another dimension is exist, but yes we don't have any prove that another dimension look or it will have different physic than us
 
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yes it is, actually they have found the evidence that another dimension is exist, but yes we don't have any prove that another dimension look or it will have different physic than us
hmmm.. let me edit

So that's what M-Theory is, i had always thought it was something to do with superstring theory....

Second edit.. It seems it actually is an extension of S-theory. I skipped that course at uni.. the mathematics behind it were too intense and i don;t think there were any courses teaching M-Theory at that time. I'm a little out of touch with modern astrophysics concepts :(
 
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but by infinitely condensed our own body, especially to the size of atom, it will make our own atom to collaps by its own gravity and we will turn to micro blackhole and eventually vanish into hawking radiation.

the best way to do is expand the hole somehow and eliminate the feedback, I think that the best way to travel in time, but maybe we won't back travel in own time it can be in another dimension, that surely will eliminate paradox theory

I agree with silkstone, traveling in a different dimension is unlikely to remove any paradoxes. Even if you traveled to an alternate universe, you'd still have the same problems.

I dunno, there is plenty of power, as power is just mass and visa-versa , and there is a helluva lot of mass in the universe.

I assume by power you mean energy, because mass is directly related to energy. The issue is not finding the energy, it is how to properly collect use the energy. Probably one of the methods used will have to be Dyson spheres.
 
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I agree with silkstone, traveling in a different dimension is unlikely to remove any paradoxes. Even if you traveled to an alternate universe, you'd still have the same problems.



I assume by power you mean energy, because mass is directly related to energy. The issue is not finding the energy, it is how to properly collect use the energy. Probably one of the methods used will have to be Dyson spheres.


ofc, i was using the person i was responding to's words. but yes, we know the energy exists, we just can "get at it" yet. Another interesting thing about matter and energy is how the laws of thermodynamics are actually not complete as we know that both matter and energy can just "pop" into existence quite randomly so energy actually can be created and destroyed.
 
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